Retirement Talk with Dr. Wade Pfau
Retirement Answer Man
Roger Whitney, CFP®, CIMA®, RMA, CPWA®
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 18 March 2026
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
💬 Show Notes
Wade Pfau, author of The Retirement Planning Guidebook and creator of the Retirement Income Style Awareness (RISA®) assessment joins Roger for a wide-ranging conversation on the big questions of retirement income planning. Wade breaks down why the RISA is a better fit for retirement than a traditional risk tolerance questionnaire, how to think about real estate and reverse mortgages as retirement tools, and what the research actually says about annuities — including when to buy, whether to add inflation protection, and how fixed index annuities with living benefits really work. This podcast is a replay of a recent Rock Retirement Club meetup where members were able to join live and ask questions.
Outline Of This Episode Of The Retirement Answer Man
- (00:00) Roger previews the episode and invites listeners to register for Noodle Live — a Saturday morning Zoom on March 28 at livewithroger.com
CONVERSATION WITH DR. WADE PFAU
- (02:00) Roger introduces Wade Pfau, author of The Retirement Planning Guidebook
- (04:15) RISA vs. risk tolerance questionnaires
- (10:45) How to use The Retirement Planning Guidebook
- (12:00) AI in retirement research
- (14:30) RRC Member Question: How does real estate fit into retirement planning?
- (17:00) Reverse mortgages as a retirement tool — usage trends, how the HECM line of credit works, upfront cost hurdles, and why adoption remains low
- (21:30) RRC Member Question: What is an effective marginal tax rate (EMR) and how does it affect Roth conversion strategy?
- (25:00) Navigating ACA subsidy cliffs before Medicare
- (28:00) RRC Member Question: Fixed vs. inflation-adjusted annuities
- (33:00) Annuity timing
- (37:00) RRC Member Question: Should we explore intentionally breaking the ACA cliff every few years?
- (48:00) Fixed index annuities with living benefits vs. income annuities
- (53:00) RRC Member Question: Is there an optimal age window for buying an annuity if it's a "nice to have" rather than a must?
- (57:00) Interpreting retirement planning software
SMART SPRINT
- (59:00) Pick up the latest edition of The Retirement Planning Guidebook. Use it as an approachable reference guide, or read it straight through if you're really into retirement planning.
REFERENCES
- livewithroger.com — Register for Noodle Live on March 28!
- The Retirement Planning Guidebook, 3rd Edition — Wade Pfau / retirementresearcher.com
- Take the RISA® assessment.
- Submit a Question for Roger.
- Sign up for The Noodle.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Today we're going to have a wide-ranging conversation with Wade Fowl from retirement researcher |
| 0:04.4 | on annuities and Risa style assessments, reverse mortgages, tax optimization, and so much more. |
| 0:14.3 | Hey there, welcome to the show. My name is Roger Whitney. So glad to be here with you today. So we're |
| 0:20.7 | going to chat with Wade Fowell. |
| 0:21.8 | He recently came into the club for a private session with club members. |
| 0:25.9 | So you're going to hear some, well, retirees a lot like you asking questions and interacting |
| 0:29.9 | with Wade on a whole host of topics. |
| 0:32.8 | So I'm excited to get to that. |
| 0:34.9 | Before we do, however, I want to invite you to join me on March 28th, Saturday |
| 0:40.9 | morning to bring the noodle live. On Saturday morning on March 28th, we're going to go live on |
| 0:49.7 | Zoom, have a cup of coffee, and hang out and just debrief the month of topics that we've covered in |
| 0:55.1 | the show, have just a great interaction and Q&A on retirement planning in general. |
| 1:00.7 | Good way to spend a Saturday morning with a little cup of coffee. |
| 1:03.8 | So you can register for that and find out more at Live With roger.com. |
| 1:09.1 | And if you get the noodle every week, we'll have a link in the noodle. |
| 1:13.6 | But that said, let's get started with this retirement chat with Wade Fow. |
| 1:23.9 | Wade Fow, author of the retirement planning guidebook. I have the previous edition. I have |
| 1:29.1 | the newest version yet, Wade. And this is going to be an open discussion session about |
| 1:34.5 | retirement topics. Wade is a prolific researcher and thinker on this topic and creator of |
| 1:39.6 | the RISA, which we have integrated into the master class. I'm having an active debate, Wade, internally, |
| 1:45.9 | because we're refreshing our process and our planning firm |
| 1:49.2 | of using the RISA and have someone that is still attached to the old school risk tolerance |
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