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Retirement Answer Man

Retirement Talk with Dr. Wade Pfau

Retirement Answer Man

Roger Whitney, CFP®, CIMA®, RMA, CPWA®

Education, Investmentmanagement, Saving, Self-improvement, Careerplanning, Retirement, Business, Lifeplanning, Investing, Retirementplanning, Financialplanning, Retirementpodcast

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

💬 Show Notes

Wade Pfau, author of The Retirement Planning Guidebook and creator of the Retirement Income Style Awareness (RISA®) assessment joins Roger for a wide-ranging conversation on the big questions of retirement income planning. Wade breaks down why the RISA is a better fit for retirement than a traditional risk tolerance questionnaire, how to think about real estate and reverse mortgages as retirement tools, and what the research actually says about annuities — including when to buy, whether to add inflation protection, and how fixed index annuities with living benefits really work. This podcast is a replay of a recent Rock Retirement Club meetup where members were able to join live and ask questions.


Outline Of This Episode Of
The Retirement Answer Man

  • (00:00) Roger previews the episode and invites listeners to register for Noodle Live — a Saturday morning Zoom on March 28 at livewithroger.com

CONVERSATION WITH DR. WADE PFAU

  • (02:00) Roger introduces Wade Pfau, author of The Retirement Planning Guidebook 
  • (04:15) RISA vs. risk tolerance questionnaires
  • (10:45) How to use The Retirement Planning Guidebook
  • (12:00) AI in retirement research
  • (14:30) RRC Member Question: How does real estate fit into retirement planning?
  • (17:00) Reverse mortgages as a retirement tool — usage trends, how the HECM line of credit works, upfront cost hurdles, and why adoption remains low
  • (21:30) RRC Member Question: What is an effective marginal tax rate (EMR) and how does it affect Roth conversion strategy? 
  • (25:00) Navigating ACA subsidy cliffs before Medicare
  • (28:00) RRC Member Question: Fixed vs. inflation-adjusted annuities
  • (33:00) Annuity timing
  • (37:00) RRC Member Question: Should we explore intentionally breaking the ACA cliff every few years?
  • (48:00) Fixed index annuities with living benefits vs. income annuities
  • (53:00) RRC Member Question: Is there an optimal age window for buying an annuity if it's a "nice to have" rather than a must?
  • (57:00) Interpreting retirement planning software

SMART SPRINT

  • (59:00) Pick up the latest edition of The Retirement Planning Guidebook. Use it as an approachable reference guide, or read it straight through if you're really into retirement planning.

REFERENCES


Transcript

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0:00.0

Today we're going to have a wide-ranging conversation with Wade Fowl from retirement researcher

0:04.4

on annuities and Risa style assessments, reverse mortgages, tax optimization, and so much more.

0:14.3

Hey there, welcome to the show. My name is Roger Whitney. So glad to be here with you today. So we're

0:20.7

going to chat with Wade Fowell.

0:21.8

He recently came into the club for a private session with club members.

0:25.9

So you're going to hear some, well, retirees a lot like you asking questions and interacting

0:29.9

with Wade on a whole host of topics.

0:32.8

So I'm excited to get to that.

0:34.9

Before we do, however, I want to invite you to join me on March 28th, Saturday

0:40.9

morning to bring the noodle live. On Saturday morning on March 28th, we're going to go live on

0:49.7

Zoom, have a cup of coffee, and hang out and just debrief the month of topics that we've covered in

0:55.1

the show, have just a great interaction and Q&A on retirement planning in general.

1:00.7

Good way to spend a Saturday morning with a little cup of coffee.

1:03.8

So you can register for that and find out more at Live With roger.com.

1:09.1

And if you get the noodle every week, we'll have a link in the noodle.

1:13.6

But that said, let's get started with this retirement chat with Wade Fow.

1:23.9

Wade Fow, author of the retirement planning guidebook. I have the previous edition. I have

1:29.1

the newest version yet, Wade. And this is going to be an open discussion session about

1:34.5

retirement topics. Wade is a prolific researcher and thinker on this topic and creator of

1:39.6

the RISA, which we have integrated into the master class. I'm having an active debate, Wade, internally,

1:45.9

because we're refreshing our process and our planning firm

1:49.2

of using the RISA and have someone that is still attached to the old school risk tolerance

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