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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Retirement Disorder

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Don McDonald

Business, Education, Investing, How To

4.2680 Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

This episode explores the psychological and financial side of retirement planning through the lens of entropy. Don and Tom dive into an article from Kiplinger that cleverly compares retirement to the second law of thermodynamics: left unmanaged, both money and purpose tend toward chaos. Only 4% of retirees say they're "living the dream"—and the duo explores why that number is so shockingly low. From maintaining routine and finding meaning to avoiding common money traps like over- or under-spending, this episode is packed with practical insights and sardonic banter. Plus, listener questions on Roth conversions for low-income parents and generating sustainable income in retirement portfolios. 0:04 Why we're talking thermodynamics on a money show1:40 The "Second Law" of Retirement: Life drifts toward chaos2:15 Only 4% of retirees say they're "living the dream"3:06 Why retirement can be scary—even for us4:44 Do something in retirement... but get paid for it?6:09 Volunteering vs. purposeful work (and airplane nostalgia)7:03 Retirement spending traps: splurging or hoarding8:09 The danger of financially supporting adult children9:43 Composer John Williams and the myth of retirement11:24 Three keys to a better retirement: social, purpose, activity12:04 Paul Merriman, semi-retirement, and finding meaning13:23 It all still comes down to money—and the freedom it brings14:42 Steve Martin's quote on money and dumb stuff15:30 Listener question: Tax-efficient Roth conversions for elderly parents20:07 Listener question: Income generation with ETFs vs. income funds22:51 Junk bonds, Franklin Income Fund risk, and total return25:48 Strategy tip: Keeping a year of cash to smooth out volatility26:11 Upcoming events and Apollo's July 9th appearance27:37 Free portfolio review offer and purpose in helping others28:51 Tom's boat motor saga and 1-star review nightmares Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Rated T for Teen.

0:02.0

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0:05.0

It's an epidemic simply known as shred loss, but it doesn't have to be this way.

0:09.0

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0:14.0

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0:19.0

we can put an end to shred loss everywhere.

0:22.2

Hit the new Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4 and show the world that the shred's not dead.

0:26.4

Pre-order Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4 and play the foundry demo.

0:34.9

Reality Radio for a really great future.

0:37.9

We're talking real money.

0:40.3

Wait a second.

0:41.9

This is a money talk show.

0:44.5

Why are we talking about thermodynamics today?

0:49.6

The second law of thermodynamics says something about entropy and stuff.

0:57.3

You know, I didn't learn any of this stuff.

0:58.9

I was a deadbeat in high school.

1:01.8

That implies you didn't pay your bills.

1:05.4

That means I didn't go to school.

1:07.1

Oh, okay.

1:08.0

Which makes you a deadbeat.

1:09.3

If you don't show up, it's like deadbeat dad, that's the dad that didn't show up and pay the bills. Okay. I neither. Oh, okay. Which makes you a deadbeat. If you don't show up, it's like deadbeat dad.

1:11.4

That's a dad who didn't show up and pay the bills.

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