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🗓️ 3 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | If this investor can self-manage 150 units, you can manage one or five or 10. |
| 0:06.5 | Today, the lumberjack landlord is here sharing how he's built a life-changing portfolio |
| 0:11.6 | out of duplexes and triplexes, all with low vacancy and almost no tenant headaches. |
| 0:22.9 | Hey, everyone, welcome to the Bigger Pockets podcast. |
| 0:25.9 | I'm Dave Meyer, head of real estate investing at Bigger Pockets. |
| 0:29.9 | Our guest today is Matt, the lumberjack landlord. |
| 0:32.7 | Matt has built himself a really impressive portfolio that allowed him to retire early from a tech career last |
| 0:39.4 | year, but he didn't do it by scaling to bigger multifamily properties. He owns more than 50 different |
| 0:46.0 | properties, almost all of them duplexes and triplexes. In this episode, he's going to share a few |
| 0:51.1 | of the systems he's created to increase his time freedom, |
| 0:54.1 | even while consistently adding more units. |
| 0:57.3 | These include low-cost renovation ideas that can reduce your heat and water bills as much as |
| 1:02.1 | 20% every month, how working with local banks to lock in favorable financing that big national |
| 1:08.1 | lenders just can't compete with. |
| 1:10.7 | And stick around to hear his |
| 1:11.8 | latest really awesome fun project converting a local jail into housing units. Let's bring on Matt. |
| 1:19.0 | Matt, welcome to the Bigger Pockets podcast. Thanks for being here. Thanks so much for having me. |
| 1:23.3 | I would like if I was telling you it wasn't a dream coming true to finally be here. Very awesome and fresh off of BPCon, which was absolutely spectacular. |
| 1:32.3 | Love hearing that. It was awesome. So much fun. Yeah. So thanks for coming to BPCon. And thank you for being here. We're excited that you're here. Maybe just start by giving us a little bit of background. How did you find yourself in real estate investing? |
| 1:45.7 | Like, where were you in life when you first started getting into it? Yeah. So me in a short description |
| 1:52.0 | is I'm a ninth grade dropout. So any room I walk into, everyone's more educated than I am. |
| 1:57.3 | Dropped out, started working every job I could, and then eventually got into software, |
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