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Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Rethinking software governance: Reflecting on the second edition of Building Evolutionary Architectures

Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Thoughtworks

Careers, Business, 907234, Technology

4.753 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Building Evolutionary Architectures was published in 2017. In it, Thoughtworks CTO Rebecca Parsons, Neal Ford and Pat Kua defined and developed the concept of “evolutionary architecture” and demonstrated how it can help organizations manage change effectively in fast-moving business contexts and an ever-shifting technology landscape.

The book has now been updated, with its second edition due to be published in December 2022. In this episode of the Technology Podcast, Rebecca and Neal talk to Birgitta Böckeler and Scott Shaw about the new edition and discuss how seeing various applications of evolutionary architecture over the last five years has led them to identify new issues and challenges. In particular, they talk about how the new edition takes up the question of automating architectural governance using fitness functions, and what this means for the way we build and maintain complex software systems.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the ThoughtWorks Technology Podcast.

0:07.0

My name is Begeta Buechola and I'm one of your regular podcast co-hosts and I'm hosting

0:11.9

this episode today with my colleague Scott Shaw.

0:14.7

Hi, I'm Scott Shaw.

0:15.7

I'm from Melbourne, Australia.

0:19.0

And today our two guests are actually also two of the regular hosts of this podcast,

0:24.9

Neil Ford and Rebecca Parsons.

0:27.1

Hello, everyone.

0:28.2

This is Rebecca Parsons.

0:29.5

And this is Neil Ford.

0:30.7

You're going to hear a lot of familiar voices today if you're used to listening to our podcast.

0:34.9

Yeah, and we invited Neil and Rebecca today because of one of the books

0:39.3

that they've written in the past, together with Petcois,

0:41.8

Building Evolutionary Architectures,

0:43.8

and they're actually currently working on a second edition of the book,

0:46.7

and that's what we want to talk about today.

0:48.9

So maybe we'll just start for those of our listeners

0:51.4

not familiar with the book.

0:52.6

Can you maybe summarize?

0:53.9

What is it about?

0:55.3

Well, when you write a book that is characterizing a new term, first you have to decide what the

1:02.0

term is and then you have to define it. And the term evolutionary architecture is trying to capture

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