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🗓️ 9 December 2025
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Slowing the process of aging is something many people are interested in—and there’s a lot of pseudoscience out there about how to do it. Eric Topol is a cardiologist at Scripps and a prolific researcher on the genetics of longevity. In this episode, Eric debunks some common myths about how to live a longer life and shares his surprising findings about what actually determines a person’s lifespan and healthspan. Adam inquires about the efficacy of health supplements, and he and Eric discuss steps for preventing diseases, the role of AI in medicine, and effective practices for living a longer, healthier life.
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Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: https://adamgrant.net/)
Eric Topol (Instagram: @erictopol1 | Website: https://drerictopol.com/)
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| 0:00.0 | Well, when I was a little kid, you know, instead of like going to talk to my parents, I'd leave |
| 0:04.6 | him a note under the door. |
| 0:06.3 | I didn't even learn how to talk until I was three and a half. |
| 0:10.4 | Wow. |
| 0:11.1 | I mean, you're such a remarkably prolific scientist and communicator. |
| 0:15.2 | I assumed you must have been a child prodigy. |
| 0:18.0 | No, no, far from it. |
| 0:20.0 | I'd just been a writer for my whole life. |
| 0:23.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:25.9 | Hey, everyone, it's Adam Grant. |
| 0:27.9 | Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast with Ted on the science of what makes us tick. |
| 0:32.4 | I'm an organizational psychologist, and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people |
| 0:36.7 | to explore new thoughts |
| 0:38.1 | and new ways of thinking. |
| 0:43.9 | Eric Topol is a cardiologist at Scripps. |
| 0:47.0 | He's a prolific researcher with over 1,300 publications and one of the 10 most cited |
| 0:52.8 | living scientists in medicine. In his book Super Agers, |
| 0:56.4 | he shares his surprising findings about the genetics of longevity. And because the longevity |
| 1:00.9 | movement is full of pseudoscience, he's going to bust some myths about increasing your |
| 1:05.1 | lifespan and your health span. |
| 1:16.4 | Well, Eric, I thought it would be fun for all of our listeners if we just went through all of your scientific publications one by one. |
| 1:21.8 | It's a new cure for insomnia. |
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