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Worklife with Adam Grant

ReThinking: Brené Brown on courageous leadership

Worklife with Adam Grant

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🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Brené Brown is a researcher, storyteller, and author who hosts the podcast Dare to Lead and has given some of the most popular TED Talks of all time. Brené joins Adam live at Authors@Wharton to talk about her new book, Strong Ground. They discuss how to identify your core values, what courageous leadership looks like, and whether vulnerability has gained popularity. They also address the problems with “executive presence,” compare notes on how to have hard conversations and set boundaries, debate the merits of the “tush push,” and reflect on what Brené learned from working with FBI hostage negotiators.


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Host: Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: adamgrant.net/)

Guest: Brené Brown (Instagram: @brenebrown | Website: https://brenebrown.com/


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Strong Ground by Brené Brown

List of all Brené Brown’s books: https://brenebrown.com/books-audio


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And shape it for the better, if not for yourselves, for us.

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