Rethink – The harm of macho leadership; Athlete A
Woman's Hour
BBC
4.1 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 26 June 2020
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Today’s Rethink essay comes from the musician and artist Brian Eno, he asks what the response to the pandemic has taught us about leadership, and how what we want and need from our future leaders might have changed. To discuss the future of leadership Jane speaks to Dame Heather Rabbatts, Chair of Time’s Up UK, Inga Beale, former CEO of Lloyds of London and Professor Ngaire Woods, founding Dean of the Blavatnik School of Government at Oxford University.
A new Netflix documentary – Athlete A – explores the physical, mental and sexual abuse of young women within the United States of America Gymnastics; including at the hands of former USA Gymnastics national team doctor Larry Nassar. Former artistic gymnast and writer Jennifer Sey tells Jane about her career and the culture within gymnastics that she believes allowed this to happen.
Presented by Jane Garvey Produced by Sarah Crawley Interviewed guest: Dame Heather Rabbatts Interviewed guest: Inga Beale Interviewed guest: Professor Ngaire Woods Interviewed guest: Jennifer Sey
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| 0:35.0 | Hi, this is Jane Garvey, and welcome to the Women's Out Podcast, Friday the 26th of June 2020. |
| 0:41.0 | Good morning to you. We're having another in our series of rethink conversations on the program today. |
| 0:46.8 | This is a whole series of bits of conversation you've heard over the last couple of days on 5-live, here on Radio 4 and on the BBC World Service |
| 0:55.1 | as well. |
| 0:56.1 | We are imagining the world post-Covid, the positive possibilities, things that ought to change, |
| 1:02.0 | things that will change. and this morning in the company |
| 1:04.6 | of Brian Eno no less we're going to examine the future of leadership and how it |
| 1:10.3 | might look in the years ahead we've got some fantastic contributors to that |
| 1:14.8 | conversation. Dame Heather Abats, Inga Beel, former CEO of Lloyds of London, |
| 1:19.5 | and Professor Nairi Woods, founding dean of the Plavatnik School of Government at Oxford University. |
| 1:25.6 | Heather Abatz of course is chair of Times Up UK, former local government chief executive. |
| 1:30.9 | Once too, a director of the Football Association. |
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