Welcome back, everybody, for another edition of Retail Therapy.

I'm your host today, Vera Dudley, and I am in the driver's seat, Will DeFries.

It's currently out on paternity leave.

So I've got a little special treat for the old timers here, because joining me, joining me in my usual seat,

co-piloting today's episode, it's the one, the only, the former co-host of the Club Cool Podcast,

Phil Betalya, Phil, what's good. It's so nice to have you back in the studio.

Hey, happy to be here.

Yeah.

This is a big stage now, Phil.

Yeah, I know.

We've graduated to the big leagues.

I'm not sure how the listenership of this podcast compares to to ours,

but we're introducing you to a whole new group of listeners in a very wide and vast audience.

So we'll see what they think, man.

We'll see what they think. We'll see what they think.

I hope you're not too nervous.

There's a lot of people out there, though, that are very familiar with you.

And they are, they're ready for a little Phil catch up.

Phil, beyond having been my co-host on the Club Cool Podcast,

he worked with Will and I at our previous employer.

And is now, what are you, you're in, you're in big tech?

I'm in mid tech.

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