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🗓️ 18 May 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Republished with permission from Nutrition Without Compromise and ORLO Nutrition
Guest: Ben Levine, Co-Founder of Rasa & Clinical Herbalist
In this enlightening episode, we meet Ben Levine, a clinical herbalist and co-founder of Rasa, a sustainable adaptogenic coffee alternative brand. Ben shares his journey from corporate herbal sourcing to founding Rasa, revealing the darker side of the herb trade, the pitfalls of commoditization, and the powerful role of regenerative and responsible sourcing practices.
You’ll learn how Rasa supports farmers and wildcrafters through boots-on-the-ground sourcing, why certifications like Fair Trade and Fair for Life aren’t always enough, and how adaptogens like ashwagandha and rhodiola can help combat modern stress. We also explore the future of plant-based nutrition, climate-resilient herbs, and how reconnecting with even a single plant can shift consumer behavior.
Topics Covered:
[00:01:04] Introduction to Ben Levine and his path from Celestial Seasonings to founding Rasa
[00:02:57] Disillusionment with the commercial herb industry & the commodification of plants
[00:04:41] The impact of popularity on wildcrafted adaptogens like rhodiola and eleuthero
[00:06:21] Visiting ashwagandha farms in India and how Rasa builds sourcing relationships on the ground
[00:08:17] Certifications like Fair for Life vs. direct trade: Are labels enough?
[00:10:14] How certification programs can be co-opted by corporations
[00:13:56] The case for paying more for responsibly sourced coffee and tea alternatives
[00:14:26] How Rasa formulations address daily stress with adaptogens
[00:15:35] Why ritual matters—building healthy habits into your daily routine
[00:18:13] How adaptogens work: Partial cortisol agonists and stress modulation
[00:20:32] Adaptogens at altitude: Helping the body acclimate to high elevations
[00:23:38] The evolutionary intelligence of plants and why they thrive in extreme climates
[00:25:12] The growing disconnect in modern diets: Nature deficit and phytochemical diversity
[00:28:05] Coffee vs. herbal alternatives: Water use, land use, and regenerative potential
[00:30:03] Fermentation teas, compost brews, and the Jeewamrutha system in India
[00:31:01] Why rainwater catchment systems are essential in regions affected by climate variability
[00:32:26] How regenerative practices spread farmer-to-farmer
[00:33:33] The one action you can take today: Build a relationship with a single plant
[00:34:56] Why sourcing matters more than ever—and how you can vote with your dollars
[00:35:58] Discount code & final thoughts: Try Rasa and support responsible sourcing
🔗 Use code NUTRITION15 at WeAreRasa.com for 15% off your first order.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Care More Be Better, a podcast for people like you who care about the social impact of conscious companies and everyday heroes. |
0:09.7 | Hear inspiring stories from those who put people in planet before profit and personal gain. |
0:15.3 | You'll learn how you can make a difference, vote with your dollars, and get involved today. |
0:20.1 | Here's your host, Karina Belizey. |
0:25.6 | Today I'm going to be joined by a clinical herbalist and man on a mission, Ben Levine. |
0:31.6 | Ben has always felt a profound connection with nature, a passion that led him to earn his master of science in clinical herbalism, |
0:39.2 | and accept a position as senior buyer of botanicals for that tea giant celestial seasonings. |
0:45.8 | Unfortunately, the more he learned about the inner workings of the commercial herb industry, |
0:50.3 | the more jaded he became. |
0:52.8 | So Ben set out to disrupt the system, and today he serves as a co-founder |
0:57.1 | of Raza, stewarding the development of an ethically sourced herbal coffee alternative that's |
1:02.4 | helped over 100,000 people connect with Mother Nature, live their values, and discover plant-powered energy. |
1:09.3 | Ben, welcome to the show. |
1:11.6 | Thanks for having me on, Karina. |
1:13.6 | Well, I'm thrilled to have you here. |
1:15.6 | And just reading your bio, you gave me a thing or two to think about. |
1:20.6 | We have some things in common. |
1:22.6 | So I want to give you just a bit of context as we get started |
1:26.6 | so we can dig deep into the issues |
1:28.6 | that surround sustainability, resources, and a greater context. Sound good? Yeah, let's do it. |
1:35.1 | Great. Okay. Well, I've personally also felt a profound connection with nature throughout my |
1:39.9 | life. And I also started out in this natural products industry working in the world of herbs and |
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