This is thinking in public a program dedicated to intelligent conversation about

frontline theological and cultural issues with the people who are shaping

them.

I'm Albert Moller your host and president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

in Louisville, Kentucky.

Ryan Anderson is the William F. Simon Senior Research Fellow at the Heritage Foundation.

He's also the founder and editor of Public Discourse,

that's the online journal of the Witherspoon Institute

of Princeton, New Jersey.

He received his own Bachelor of Arts degree from Princeton University and his doctoral degree in political philosophy from the University of Notre Dame.

His research has been often cited even at the US Supreme Court and his books have been rightly influential.

His latest book is entitled When Harry Became Sally, responding to the transgender moment.

The transgender revolution is just that. It is a revolution not only as we think

about issues of gender and sexual identity, but as we think about an entire civilization that

requires distinctions, distinctions that have been

for all of human experience based in what was understood unquestionably to be reality. So what we're looking at now is a very challenge to whether or not there is a reality or a reality we can know when it comes to what it means to be human and what it means to be male and female.

Ryan Anderson, in your new book,

when Harry became Sally, responding to the transgender moment,

you are responding to a moment that would not

have been conceivable in any previous age of human existence?

That's exactly right. We've always had people who struggled with their gender identity, people who

experienced a gender identity disorder, a gender identity conflict with now called

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