Hi, I'm Susie Larson. Thank you for listening to Susie Larson Live. Faith Radio podcasts are only possible because of your support. So the back row is you glide.

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Welcome to Sizzy Larson Live.

Always so honored to get to spend this time with you.

In fact, I look forward to bringing you conversations every single day that hopefully

inspire you in your faith walk, the deep in your understanding of God's word and that

heightens your awareness of his very real presence in your life.

You know, sometimes you hear people say, well, I love Jesus.

It's the church I don't trust.

Or it's his people.

I can't stand.

And yes, you know what?

We make many mistakes as God's people.

And it is also true that there are some terrible leaders in positions of power.

But they're also really good, hardworking, sacrificial leaders who have to make tough decisions based on information.

They're not privy to share.

The church is filled with godly, sincere followers of Jesus, and sadly, the world is filled with one sincere followers of

Jesus who are now jaded because of what they experienced in the church. But here's the thing.

Jesus won't be separated from his bride. Somehow, some way, we've got to sort through our wounds in a way that compels us to

re-engage with God's people. We also do need to address some of the inconsistencies and the harsh

realities of that. Well, Natalie Runyon joins me today to talk again about her book,

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