Resisting the Attention Economy with Jenny Odell
Becoming the People Podcast with Prentis Hemphill
Prentis Hemphill
5 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 15 August 2022
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
Join us for some moss talk, discovering the infinite from within our own space and how to resist the attention economy with Jenny Odell.
Jenny Odell is an Oakland-based artist, writer, and birder whose work attempts to shift our perception of the everyday and cultivate endangered forms of attention. A former studio art instructor at Stanford, she is the author of How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy and is currently at work on a second book.
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| 0:00.0 | We've all heard the saying that what we pay attention to grows. |
| 0:17.5 | But our attention, this precious, limited resource, is now itself our culture's most valuable |
| 0:23.8 | commodity. |
| 0:25.7 | So cluttered our minds can become in this manipulation and this grasping that we lose |
| 0:31.2 | contact with our own choice. |
| 0:34.4 | We can forget that beyond our phones lay the great expanse of everything. |
| 0:39.9 | And remembering to listen to the world around us, we can encounter the fullness of possibility |
| 0:44.6 | and potential and presence. |
| 0:47.8 | In this episode, I was really delighted, stoked to talk with Ginny O'Dell, who is an artist, |
| 0:53.8 | whose work has been shown at the J.C. Museum, the New York Public Library, and the San Francisco |
| 0:59.5 | dump. |
| 1:00.8 | She is also a writer of one of my most recent favorite books, How to Do Nothing, Resisting |
| 1:06.0 | the Attention Economy. |
| 1:08.4 | It was a beautiful conversation talking to Ginny about nothing and also everything. |
| 1:14.0 | And I hope that you really enjoy it. |
| 1:17.8 | Ginny, thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. |
| 1:20.7 | You are someone who, I hope it's okay to say, you're kind of my friend in my head. |
| 1:26.0 | So I feel really glad that you said yes to the podcast and I'm excited to talk to you |
| 1:30.7 | today. |
| 1:31.7 | Thank you. |
| 1:32.7 | Likewise, that's so nice to hear. |
| 1:35.9 | I hope it's not too much. |
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