somebody once asked me, how you doing? And I just a phrase came out of my mouth said, I'm learning to dance in the darkness. I'm not alone. Others have gone through this. And not only that, they have got through this and they are living a life that's worth living now when I can't see any hope for the future. But there is a way through. I'd say to people, be careful thinking there's a way around because there's almost no way around some of these things that we face in life.

And learning to reimagine a future is very important because it may not be the future dream that you had.

It may not be what you expected.

But learning to reimagine is very, very helpful.

I think grief is always with us, but we learn to carry it.

It doesn't leave us. It's not gone. And sometimes we get triggered. It might be a song that's

years down the track. You hear a song and suddenly you've got tears in your eyes going,

whoa, what's that all about? Or some feeling or a smell or something. Joining me today in this heartfelt episode is Stuart Bogle.

He's here to share his deeply personal journey through grief following his wife's diagnosis with stage four breast cancer and her eventual passing.

He opens up about the emotional, mental, and spiritual challenges he faced and how those experiences shaped his 20-year journey in

writing his book, Learning to Dance in the Darkness. He also discusses the creation of resilient

souls, a community he founded to support families navigating grief, illness, and lost.

Through honest reflection and practical wisdom, Stewart offers hope to anyone walking through

darkness, emphasizing the strength found

in vulnerability, the importance of community, and the healing power of purpose.

Before we start the episode, I want to note that I do have listeners of all faith backgrounds

that listen to the podcast. This episode is coming from a Christian perspective, so if that's

something that doesn't fit what you're looking for, check out an episode from the archive or join me back here next week for an

episode that you don't want to miss. And I also just want to note with this episode especially,

while Stewart is coming from a Christian perspective, there is so much to be taken away from

this conversation in regards to navigating grief. So even if the topic of Christianity is one that you don't typically find yourself aligned

with, maybe just pause and give it a listen, especially if you're going to a time that could

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