Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Getting Hammered.

We're going to do a little something different this week on Getting Hammered because Vic and I are both on vacation.

So coming up as an interview I did for some reporting on a subject that's near and dear to my heart,

which is resilient parenting.

How many of you know my story and you'll hear more about it in the interview?

I've been through some crisis of my own while parenting.

And I stumbled upon Dr. Irwin Sandler, who has been researching and working with bereaved families for

30 years, and he's built a really effective program that coaches families in five building blocks

of resilient parenting. This was applicable in my life, and I wish I had found it a little

sooner. Those five are, and he'll tell you more, self-care, strengthening family bonds, active listening

to your kids, effective rules, and all of those culminate in supporting kids as they cope

with crisis. Though I happen to go through actual bereavement, I think the lessons that Sandler

teaches are applicable to parenting or persevering through a bunch of life's troubles.

So I hope you enjoy his insights and some more about my story about how I rebuilt my family after loss.

It's a little more serious getting hammered, a very special getting hammered.

But I think you guys will enjoy it.

So we will see you back here when we're back in

person. Welcome, everybody. I am delighted to have with me, Dr. Irwin Sandler. He's a research

professor at Arizona State University and a co-developer of programs to promote resilience and families following

bereavement and divorce, including the resilient parenting for bereaved families program.

Welcome, Dr. Sandler. How are you?

Thank you, Mary, Catherine. I'm fine. I'm great, and I'm really looking forward to talking with you.

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