I guess the show is more about finding your voice.

And I still, to this day, that's such an important thing to meditate on that.

Like, I have a voice.

And I, you know what I mean?

And sort of what do I care about?

What direction do I want to go?

What makes me, what makes me happy?

What, you know, instead of all this outside input telling you what you should do, you know, you're trying

to realize that don't listen to any of that. You know what I mean? What would I buy? It's hard.

Nothing. It's a very quiet at first. And then it's tough to find.

This is Pod Crushed. The podcast that takes the sting out of rejection, one crushing middle school story at a time.

And where guests share their teenage memories, both meaningful and mortifying.

And we're your hosts.

I'm Nava, a former middle school director.

I'm Sophie, a former fifth grade teacher.

And I'm Penn, a middle school dropout.

We're just three beehis who are living in Brooklyn.

Wanting to make stuff together with a particular fondness for awkward nostalgia. Well, I struggle with nostalgia. I'm here for the therapy. Penn, today's guest is a good friend of yours. And I'm just wondering. Who is it? Who is it? Who is it? Oh, my God, it's Chase Crawford. Okay, I feel like we have to acknowledge that NAVA in a previous episode named Chase Crawford. She got to choose any person, but she named Chase Crawford as the one person she would offer her laptop to if he asked. And today we got to interview him. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I know. He said he's going to listen to all the episodes.

I know.

I was like, oh, God.

Don't listen to the Jen Ortega one.

Just skip it.

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