Welcome to Narcissist Apocalypse, everyone. I am Brandon Chadwick, and today we will be putting out a re-release of an old episode with Julie L. Hall about scapegoats. In this episode, the original sound was not very good. Sometimes people try to go back

and listen to this episode and they have a very difficult time to do that. So I did my best to

rework the audio, get rid of this weird background noise for everyone. And I think I did an okay job. The sounds of the voices might be a little bit

digital sounding in this one, but at least that background noise is not there anymore.

And I really enjoyed this. This was one of the early episodes we did. I might not have been the best interviewer at the time.

I was doing my best, but I wanted everyone to listen to this episode again.

So I got it to a point where I think it is much easier for everyone to hear.

So now I'm going to get out of my way and your way. Here is my old

conversation about scapegoats with Julie L. Hall. Welcome everyone to Narcissist Apocalypse

Q&A. And today I have a journalist, an educational writer, a coach, a survivor, an author of the book,

The Narcist in Your Life, recognizing the patterns in learning to break free.

Julie L. Hall, it's an examination of narcissistic personality disorder and its traumatic impact on family members and partners.

It's packed with insight, compassion, and practical strategies for recovery. It's comprehensive, up-to-date, affirming, and it's an accessible guide that will not only help you understand narcissistic abuse trauma, but will also

help you overcome trauma cycles and help you move forward with healing. So Julie Hall, thank you

for being here with me today. Hi, Brandon. Thanks so much for having me. We can be here.

It's a pleasure to have you here. And it's a pleasure to have you here, not just because we're going to discuss

scapegoating soon, but we're also going to discuss right now all the lovely things,

some big names have said about you and your book.

And we're going to start off here with the library journal.

And they say all libraries in particular, university collections, supporting mental health

and psychiatry curriculum, will find this a worthy addition.

Then we have Susan Forward, who is a PhD, an author of Emotional Blackmail and Mothers

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