Welcome to Wine for Normal People, the podcast for people who like wine, but not the snobbery that goes with it.

I'm your host, Elizabeth Schneider, author of the Wine for Normal People book and certified wine dork.

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As I'm preparing episode 600, I wanted to re-release a show.

And of course, after last week's Malbec show, there is no better

show to release than episode 181, which was done, I think, in like 2016, 2017 with Laura Catena,

who is the leading lady of Argentine wine, as the podcast is called. Nothing has changed in that

regard. She is still out

doing the best work for Argentina, or carrying the Argentinian flag, as she says in the show.

This is such a great show. I made some edits for conciseness and to remove some outdated information,

but the things that she says, the story she tells, the study she's done still are so relevant

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