There's roughly 80,000 Somalis in Minnesota, and less than 100 have been convicted of the fraud, but it is the vast majority have been Somalis.

And by the way, having worked in the food manufacturing sector for 20 years, and oftentimes in operating plants, I've worked with a lot of immigrants from all over the

world. And my grandmother was born in Naples, and probably all of us to a certain extent,

unless we're Native Americans, our products were immigrants at some point. So I am pro-immigrant

in that respect.

But as far as the Somali population or any population,

I think what we need to do is just follow the law and enforce the law.

And I think one thing that causes me, let's say, great frustration is it's at the federal level sometimes,

but also at the state level, people just

need to stay in their lane and do their job the best they can. The legislature needs to pass the

laws. The executive needs to faithfully execute the laws. The police need to enforce the law,

and the prosecutors need to prosecute the laws. And we get into problems when, let's say, a governor or a mayor and the executive looks at the

law as almost like a menu or a buffet line, like, all right, you know, I'm going to follow this

law, I'm going to disregard that one.

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We're in the midst of a series that we've been dropping here for the last month or so of the gubernatorial candidates

running against Tim Walls in Minnesota. So these are all Republicans. Obviously, Tim Walls

is running on the Democrat ticket. He has not accepted an invitation to join us, but all of the

Republican candidates had. And today is Patrick Knight, a guy with an extraordinary background, grew up in

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