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This is the Tom Harbin program.

A lot of news around social security, Medicare, Medicare for all, all kinds of cool stuff going on,

and some kind of scary stuff as well.

Alex Lawson is on the line with us, the executive director of socialsecurityworks.org,

or strengthensocialsecurity.org, his Twitter handle a law 202 or SS works,

and Alex, welcome back to the program.

Are there any other websites you want to mention here as part of your introduction?

I think that was enough Tom, thanks for having me.

Great, it's good work you're doing, it's a really good work you're doing.

I'm constantly sending people to your website.

So number one, we've got the Republican Party working as hard as they can,

at least the Republicans in the House of Representatives,

to try to crash our economy via this device of the debt ceiling.

And they have done this before, we've actually had government shutdowns.

We've never had a default, but we've had government shutdowns.

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