Republicans Get a Little Punchy
The Mona Charen Show
The Bulwark
4.5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 16 June 2023
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
Arc Digital's Nicholas Grossman joins the panel to help analyze the Republican reaction to Trump's indictment—both the officials and the voters—as well as the Ukrainian summer offensive. Plus, renaming Southern military bases, inflation, the steak-price indicator, and must-watch TV starring Keri Russell.
show notes:
Sarah Longwell's Iowa Focus Group featured on the PBS NewsHour
Highlights/lowlights
Nick's:
https://www.hulu.com/series/the-americans-6deba130-65fb-4816-acb1-aea5eb940f0f
https://www.netflix.com/title/81288983
Linda's:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/14/dallas-mayor-eric-johnson-crime/
Damon's:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/14/ignoring-robert-f-kennedy-jr-not-an-option
Mona's:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/06/12/immigration-economy-book-reviews
Bill's:
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691204383/the-new-makers-of-modern-strategy
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to beg to differ. The bull works weekly roundtable discussion featuring civil conversation |
| 0:15.2 | across the political spectrum. We range from center left to center right. I'm Mona Charen, |
| 0:20.1 | syndicated columnist and policy editor at the bull work, and I'm joined by our regular's Bill |
| 0:25.2 | Galston of the Brookings Institution and the Wall Street Journal. Damon Linker who writes the |
| 0:30.0 | sub-stack newsletter notes from the middle ground and Linda Chavez of the Nascannon Center. |
| 0:35.7 | Our special guest this week is Nicholas Grossman, professor of political science at the University |
| 0:40.8 | of Illinois and senior editor at Arc Digital. Welcome one and all. Well, we began to discuss it |
| 0:48.0 | last week because we knew that it was imminent, but now we have it. The indictment, the federal |
| 0:54.8 | indictment of Donald Trump. First time in history that a president has been federally indicted, |
| 1:01.1 | and as several WAGs on Twitter have pointed out, Trump has now been indicted more often than he |
| 1:07.4 | has been elected. So we have 37 felony counts, and it is a very serious document laying out in |
| 1:18.4 | rather devastating detail Trump's contempt for the law and endangerment of national security. So |
| 1:27.6 | what about the reaction everyone wants to know by the Republicans? Well, there have been the |
| 1:33.7 | usual clowns who have rallied round Trump like Vivek Ramaswamy and Alas Kevin McCarthy. |
| 1:42.8 | But there have also been other voices that have been a little different from what we've come |
| 1:48.0 | to see in the last eight years. We've had quite a few Republicans pushing back and stressing that |
| 1:54.6 | this is very serious. So Nick Grossman, I'm going to start with you. Do you agree with me that |
| 2:02.7 | the change in tone at least among a number of Republicans is notable for this particular indictment? |
| 2:10.7 | I think so, yes. And in particular, we are seeing the national security Republicans, |
| 2:15.6 | the ones who take it seriously and didn't already leave the party over Trump in various ways that |
| 2:19.7 | he was undermining US national security, but who were taking this seriously. That when it comes to |
| 2:24.3 | a question like, is it okay when the Pentagon makes war plans for, say, the event of conflict with |
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