All right, John. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. I'm Chris Cuomo and welcome to Primetime.

Now I often wonder if people who are living during times that will be historic know it

because we sure are

Do you realize that? Do you realize that people will be talking about this period in American history

for decades and decades and decades to come?

And my greatest fear is that the

historicity of it that historically it will be seen as a bad moment for democracy. Why?

Because we've never seen one party in this damnable two-party system that we insist on

go all in on a lie. So half of your political system is invested in a lie. That's happening.

It's not just Trump. The whole party practically backs actively or passively

selling that the election was not legitimate. And I don't think enough people get that this may be

just beginning. Why do you keep talking about Trump? Because he's the head of the movement. Yeah,

but the election's over. He can run again. And they are all preparing to undermine

any one's confidence who isn't voting for them. The key moment

that I think shows where we are and where we could be headed is not January 6th.

It's a moment that came after. A moment it was clear that Trumpers decided the best play was to do

democracy dirty. I put it on this moment of May 12th. I don't think anybody is questioning the

legitimacy of the presidential election. I think that is all over with.

Now McCarthy knew questioning the anchor of our democracy, our elections. It was a bad thing to do.

But he also knew he was going to do it. That same day McCarthy said one thing, but he did another.

He kicked Liz Chaney out from her number three spot. Remember that same day that he said nobody's

really doing that. Why did he kick around? Because she didn't back Trump. Because she refused to question

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