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The Playbook Podcast

Republicans brace for the post-Trump era

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

News, Daily News, Politics, Government

3.9699 Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

As Republicans continue reeling from the resounding losses they faced across the country on Tuesday, one glaringly obvious lesson has emerged: the party needs a plan for how to win when Donald Trump isn’t on the ballot. In 2024, the president demonstrated a unique ability to attract typically disengaged voters to the polls. But the inroads that Trump built with this coalition failed to hold for Republicans in key off-year races on Tuesday. Playbook’s Adam Wren and White House reporter Megan Messerly discuss where the party turns ahead of the midterm elections and beyond. Plus, movement to end the longest shutdown in history may be materializing.

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0:00.0

Today on the Playbook podcast, Republicans continue to reckon with this week's catastrophic election results and the path forward for both parties in 2026 and beyond.

0:17.6

It's day 38 of the government shutdown. Is that some movement that we feel? Plus,

0:23.1

Victor Orban is visiting the White House today, and we have more on what he wants to discuss

0:28.3

with Trump. Hello, I'm Adam Wren. And I'm Megan Messerly. It's Friday, November 7th. And without

0:35.2

further ado, here's what's driving the day.

0:40.3

Megan, Republicans are continuing to reel from the results that we saw Tuesday night in Virginia, New Jersey, New York, California, and across the country.

0:50.5

But if there's one sort of glaring takeaway, it's the trouble that they experience when Donald Trump himself is not on the ballot.

0:59.0

As we saw in November last year, he has really figured out how to drive disengaged voters to the polls.

1:07.5

But when he's not on the ballot, they don't show up.

1:10.2

And that's not only a problem for

1:12.7

him, but it's a problem for whoever the Republican nominee is in 2028. And so we think that

1:20.1

Vice President J.D. Vance is likely paying very close attention to this. And we have some

1:24.6

exclusive polling. Megan, this is super exciting. The latest Politico poll

1:28.9

shows that Vance is the top choice to be the 2028 nominee among 24 Trump voters. So no surprise here,

1:38.1

the vice president leading a number of other figures. So even though J.D. Vance had about a third

1:44.0

of the responses, Donald Trump

1:46.0

himself had 28% of the responses. There were sort of variations of don't know that came in third

1:54.2

at 14%. And then we saw people like Florida Governor Ronda Santis at 6%. former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley at 2%.

2:02.9

Rubio was at 2% as well. Senator Ted Cruz at 1%. And so, Megan, a lot here, not super surprising.

2:11.9

I mean, to be sure, it's 2025. We're three years out. A lot of this at this point is just picking up national name ID.

2:20.9

But I'm curious about what you make of this. Just a third overall of responses for Vance,

2:27.4

it seems to me that if Trump isn't on the ballot himself, that Vance has a lot of work to do

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