Hey everybody it's Joe Trippy and welcome back to a Thanksgiving week edition of that trippy show.

This week we have a special guest I'm really excited to talk to.

My friend, John Dela Bopi, director of polling at Harvard's Institute of Politics,

and author of Fight

how Generation Z is Channeling Their Fear and Passion

to Save America.

He wrote an article this week in the New York Times,

Republicans Fear the Young.

And I knew I wanted to have him on the show

to talk about that.

John, welcome.

It's great to be with you, Trippi. Thanks so much for having me. Happy

Thanksgiving. Listen I want to let our our listeners in on something.

John and I go back to a foreign campaign overseas in Greece in 1993.

That's right.

Where John was doing the polling and strategy work and I was doing message strategy TV kind of stuff

for Andreas Pop and Ray I was like comeback campaign against the incumbent

the prime minister at the time,

Mitutakus, who had hired Carvel,

Bogala, Mary Madeline, and the prime Minister had.

Anyway, John, I mean, that was like, seems like in a lot of ways,

eons ago, but man, that was like one of the greatest victories. I mean, I think that I've experienced in in politics

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