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Imperfect Paradise

Reports about failures in response to the January LA fires and a 2018 fire have striking similarities

Imperfect Paradise

LAist Studios

Society & Culture

4.5535 Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

A new report details the Eaton and Palisades fires, including failures in the emergency response. But this report bears striking similarities with another -- which chronicled the response to the 2018 Woolsey Fire in Southern California. LAist science reporter Jacob Margolis discusses the reports and what they mean for L.A. County moving forward.

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Hey, this is in Perfect Paradise.

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I'm Antonia Selejillo. It's been nine months since the devastating Eaton and Palisades fires swept through Altadena and the Pacific Palisades. Finally, we're getting

0:47.8

some deep insight into what went wrong. That clarity is coming thanks to an after-action report

0:53.7

released last week.

0:55.6

Particularly with elected officials, when they say we couldn't have seen this coming and this

0:59.3

was unimaginable, people need to push back aggressively against that level of bullshit.

1:05.9

Today, on Imperfect Paradise, we're speaking with LAS science reporter Jacob Margolis about that report,

1:11.9

which examined alerts and evacuations that authority sent out during the January fires.

1:17.7

Jacob is going to break down that report and what went wrong and also talk about the alarming

1:22.6

similarities he saw in an after-action report released six years ago after the 2018 Woolsey Fire.

1:30.6

Jacob, thanks so much for being on Imperfect Paradise.

1:33.5

Thanks for having me.

1:34.7

So, okay, before we get into this report, I think it's important to note that the fire authorities in

1:39.3

Southern California are some of the largest and most well-resourced agencies around the world.

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