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... Hello and welcome to Seeing Red, True Crime Podcast. I'm Mark.

And I'm Bethan. Welcome back, everybody, and welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us and thanks for listening.

It's a very stormy Sunday as we record this, isn't it?

Incredibly stormy. Stormbert, named after my dog.

Oh yeah. I didn't think of that. That's really cute.

Yeah. Shall we crack on with Patreon thank yous and then launch into this week's episode?

Oh, well, I've actually put a little something after Patrons before the episode as well, Mark.

So, yeah, do you want to say thank you to our Patrients?

I certainly do, yep.

So we have J.C., Rebecca Helgeson, Esme Butcher, Laura Hopper and Ellie Campi. Thank you to each and every one of you. And of course, thanks also go to our existing Patreon supporters. There's a real army of you over there, well over 1,000, maybe 1100. So if you've not already joined us on Patreon, do have a

think about it. There's a lot of bonus content. All you need to do is head over to patreon.com slash

Seenred podcast and help us to quit our jobs and sign up, please. Thank you to all of our new

Patreon supporters and all our existing Patreon supporters.

And before we begin this week's episode, I wanted to give a quick shout out to everyone that if

you're writing your lists for Santa, perhaps you're giving your partner some ideas for Christmas

presents, maybe thinking of what to ask for from your family. Don't forget to show them our

website. Yes, and don't forget to buy your

Seeing Red Besties some merch for Christmas. If you both listen to our show, you'll know that they'll

absolutely love it. So head to www.seeingredpodcast.com.com.com, where you can find all of our

range of goodies, from mugs and reusable cups to hoodies,

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