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ποΈ 27 May 2023
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David returns from his recent trip to Kyiv to provide an eyewitness account of the war, including what it is like to survive the terror of a hypersonic missile attack by the Russians. He and Curtis discuss the physical, emotional, and spiritual toll of the war on the Ukrainian people. They explore what lessons we all should take from this ongoing, world changing event.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to The Good Faith Podcasts. I'm your host, Curtis Chang. The Good Faith Podcasts |
0:21.8 | is a production of redeeming babble and it's where friends who follow Jesus help each |
0:26.7 | other makes sense of the world. And joining us today is old friend David French who is back, |
0:31.8 | not just back to the podcast, but back to the country. David, you've been gone. Tell us of this |
0:39.3 | momentous trip that you've just returned from. Yeah, I am back from Kiev, Ukraine. I left America |
0:48.7 | on the 12th of May and flew did the trip that you kind of have to do if you're going to go to |
0:55.5 | Ukraine, which you're not flying into Kiev. So flying to Warsaw, taking overnight train from |
1:03.2 | Helm in Poland to Kiev. And then was there with the delegation. I was there with Max Boot, |
1:11.1 | Washington Post columnist, former Senator Heidi Heitkamp, former ambassador to Ukraine, Bill Taylor, |
1:17.5 | who's by the way, if you ever want to travel to Ukraine, travel with ambassador Taylor because |
1:23.3 | everyone in that country loves him. Cory Shocky from American and he's like the Rick Steves |
1:29.1 | of Ukraine. It sounds like. Oh, he's he is unbelievable. People love him in that place. And because |
1:37.1 | he was with us and also because Senator Heitkamp was with us, we were able to meet with |
1:42.0 | defense minister, foreign minister, infrastructure minister, the equivalent of the attorney general, |
1:48.8 | the US ambassador, dinner with the US ambassador and her senior team. So we really got to |
1:55.9 | interact with the people who are making key decisions in Ukraine. And then also met with |
2:01.9 | people from Ukrainian civil society who are trying to rebuild or trying to |
2:09.1 | hold Russia accountable for its war crimes. We're just simply trying to find Ukrainian children that |
2:15.5 | Russians have seized. I mean, so we met with this incredible spectrum of people and then also |
2:24.6 | just experienced what life is like in Kiev in May 2023 and more time. And so it was |
2:33.6 | memorable on every front, including the first night there when we were we had a front row seat for |
2:41.8 | what I believe is the largest hypersonic missile attack in the history of warfare. I mean, |
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