Hey guys, happy Friday. Welcome to the podcast. Today we are going to talk to my friend Virgil

Walker of the Just Thinking podcast. You have probably heard of Just Thinking if you've been listening

to either their podcast or my podcast for a little bit. I had Darryl Harrison who is the

co-host of Just Thinking a few weeks ago. We talked about wokeness in the church and Virgil Walker

expertise is abortion. He does a lot for the pro-life cause. And so we're going to talk about the

legislation in Georgia and Alabama. This non-exception or this lack of exception in Alabama legislation

for rape or incest. How we as Christians should view that and really what we should be doing

on the front lines of the pro-life cause. Virgil, thanks so much for joining me.

Thank you for having me, Ali. Yeah, first if you could just tell everyone who might not be familiar

who you are, what you do and why you care so much about this issue of abortion.

Yeah, well, I'm Virgil Walker and I'm part and parcel of the Just Thinking podcast with Darryl

Harrison, the famed Darryl Harrison, Darryl Dangerous Harrison. You've interviewed him on your

podcast. So I work side by side with him. I do a lot in the area of abortion. I've been involved in

abortion at the abortion mill for the last seven years or so six or seven years doing sidewalk

ministry and the like and just an advocate of the pro-life position. Okay, I got you. And you work

for a church, correct? Correct. Correct. Here in the Omaha area, absolutely.

Okay, I got you. So there's a lot of conversation going on about abortion right now.

And this is something that you and I share this passion for the pro-life cause.

I've heard you say before that you are more of an abolitionist than a pro-life. So what do you mean by

that? Yeah, definitely, definitely more of an abolitionist. I think that for the most part,

I think pro-life, the pro-lifeers get it right. But I think oftentimes we're involved in half measures

or we're willing to seed ground on the issue of incest and rape. I mean, you see that in the

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