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TransLash Podcast with Imara Jones

Replay: Tourmaline's Definitive Biography of Marsha P. Johnson

TransLash Podcast with Imara Jones

TransLash Media

News, Education, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Transgender, Lgbtq, Trans

4.3619 Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In honor of what would have been Marsha P. Johnson’s 80th birthday, we’re replaying this conversation with Tourmaline about her book “Marsha: The Joy and Defiance of Marsha P. Johnson.” In it, she shares what it took to piece together Marsha’s story, from her early life in Times Square to her radical visions of freedom, spirituality, and care. She also unpacks Marsha’s expansive political imagination, her collaboration with groups like the Black Panthers, and why telling the full truth about her legacy matters more than ever in the face of right-wing historical revisionism. 


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TransLash Podcast is produced by TransLash Media.

The Translash team includes Imara Jones, Oliver-Ash Kleine, Aubrey Calaway, Hillary Esquina, and Morgan Astbury. 

Xander Adams engineered the original episode, and Lucy Little engineered this replay.

Theme music composed by Ben Draghi.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey fam, it's me, Amara. Welcome to the TransLash podcast, a show where we tell

0:12.0

trans stories to save trans lives. Well, as you know, we're taking a much needed break here at

0:17.2

TransLash to prepare for what will likely be a hectic fall. As I've said before,

0:22.7

the fall is always a little crazy. So we're taking what we need now to gear up for all that's

0:29.2

ahead. So we're bringing you some of our favorite episodes from years past that you may have

0:34.6

missed or that are just worth a re-listen. In just a few days, we'll be

0:40.2

celebrating Marsha P. Johnson's birthday. She was born 80 years ago. She would have been 80 years old,

0:45.9

y'all, on September 24th, 1945 in Elizabeth, New Jersey. And so, even though it hasn't been so long since we released this episode,

0:56.7

and a lot of you all engaged and responded to it, I wanted to share this conversation for new

1:02.2

listeners that we've gotten in the meantime, and just because this is a fantastic conversation

1:07.0

with Termaline about her recent biography, Marcia, the joy and defiance of Marcia P. Johnson.

1:13.9

But before we get to this, as Marcia would say, pay it no mind conversation, let's start out as always

1:20.2

with some trans joy. oral history has always been a way for our communities to pass down stories of survival,

1:45.7

joy, and becoming.

1:47.3

Caro de Robertois is the author of seven acclaimed books, including Cantoras, as well as the president

1:53.5

and the frog, with honors ranging from the Stonewall Book Award to the Penn Faulkner

1:59.1

finalist list.

2:00.4

Their newest work, So Many Stars, is an oral history of trans, non-binary, genderqueer, and

2:06.6

Two-Spirit People of Color, and it just hit bookshelves this week.

2:11.6

Sharing stories from activists, artists, and more, this collection captures the courage of trans

2:16.9

lives in poetry and pose.

2:19.3

Here's Caro to tell us more.

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