Hi friends and welcome to the papaya podcast. I'm your hostess, Try and Hermostus, Sarah Nicole,

and each week I'm going to be dishing out some sweetness mixed in with some seeds of wisdom or something like that.

So get ready to get inspired, get candid, get real, because we are all in this digital

space together. All right, everyone, welcome back. We have a very great guest on today. You

might know her as I had a miscarriage on Instagram, but she is an author of the new book, Normalize It,

which has just come out. I'm very excited to welcome Jessica Zucker.

Thank you so much for having me.

So you have amassed an audience talking about some of the uncomfortable things that come

along with life and being a woman and how we sort of go through

that. Tell me your story of how that your account sort of started and let this really get into

this book. Yeah. Thank you. So I'm a psychologist and I specialize in women's reproductive and

maternal mental health and have done so for about

15 years at this point. And I come to the field with a background in public health and worked

in international women's rights, women's health. So when I pursued my PhD, I wanted to bring all of my

interests together in my clinical practice. So at the

time, it was really just a passion about women, women's bodies, what we go through the course of our

lives. I had yet to live through something corporeally, like something in my own body that really

informed my passion for all of this until I was 16 weeks into my second pregnancy and I had a miscarriage while I was home by myself.

I had to cut the umbilical cord, coached by phone by my OBGYN. My husband was darting through LA traffic,

trying to reach me. My doctor suggested that we bring the fetus in a bag to her office to be

tested. And when we got there, to make matters all the more traumatic and dramatic,

I ended up undergoing an unmedicated DNC.

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