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Replay: Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy shares her path from making docs to directing ‘Ms. Marvel’

The Business

KCRW

Tv & Film

4.6676 Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2022

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

This week, The Business revisits a conversation with filmmaker Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy, who is now being tapped to direct an upcoming “Star Wars” movie, along with Damon Lindelof, who will develop and co-write it. Obaid-Chinoy will be the first woman and person of color at the helm of this movie franchise. Recently, the two-time Academy Award winner directed two episodes of Disney’s limited series “Ms. Marvel.” She shares with Kim Masters her path from making intimate documentary shorts in her home country of Pakistan, to animated features, to “Ms. Marvel” – her first live-action, narrative fiction series. “I know what ‘Black Panther’ did for communities across the world. And this is exactly what ‘Ms. Marvel’ is going to do for South Asian communities,” says Obaid-Chinoy. The mini series portrays a teenage, Pakistani-American superhero, and within its first week on Disney+, it received a 97% score – the best reviewed Marvel series and film production on Rotten Tomatoes, a record previously held by “Black Panther.” The filmmaker also talks about how the real life heroes she has depicted over the years in documentary form are tied to “Ms. Marvel.” “Kamala Khan/Ms. Marvel is a superhero who … is very much in line with the other characters that I had been filming throughout my career,” she explains, adding she desires to continue telling important stories in the future. First, Masters and Matt Belloni have a fresh banter about Lucasfilm and how its leadership’s lack of creative vision is running the franchise into the ground. Plus, Peacock has growing problems. 

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0:00.0

From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

0:05.0

This week, we revisit our conversation with director Charmine Obed Chinoi,

0:09.4

who recently was announced as the first woman and first person of color to direct a Star Wars movie,

0:15.1

with Damon Lindelof writing the script.

0:18.0

Obed Chinoi has won Oscars and Emmys for her documentary work, focusing

0:21.6

on the persecution of women in her home country of Pakistan. The Disney Plus series

0:26.3

Ms. Marvel was her first time directing a scripted live action show. But if any of the guys

0:31.8

on the crew thought she could be told what to do, Obeyed Chanoi was ready.

0:35.8

I think I made it quite clear in my first week that I've built a career on telling men

0:40.3

how they should behave around women.

0:42.0

So even those that attempted to try were quickly sort of told that that was not going to happen.

0:49.2

Charmine Obed Shanoi, who directed two episodes of the Miss Marvel series,

0:53.2

shares the ties that bind the first

0:55.1

Muslim superhero in the Marvel universe to real-life heroes she's depicted over the years in

1:00.4

documentary form. But first we banter. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW. I am joined by

1:08.5

my partner in banter, Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt.

1:11.5

Hi there.

1:16.0

So I'm going to take the opportunities since we're running an episode today with Charmine Obed Chanoi, who is going to, we are told, be not only the first woman, but the first

1:21.9

person of color and the first female person of color to direct a Star Wars movie.

1:26.9

It's kind of incredible.

1:27.8

These movies have all been directed by white men since the beginning.

1:31.4

She is going to direct this movie, we're told.

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