Welcome to the podcast Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Professor of Christian Ethics at Talbot School of Theology at Biola University.

And I'm your co-host John McDowell, an author, speaker, and apologetics professor also here at

Biola University. We're here today with Pastor Chris Brooks, who's a radio

host, Seminary Dean, community developer, and he pastures the church just

outside of Detroit. Joining us for the second part of our

conversation and again I am phoning in from the car on the way to my son's

football game.

Chris let me ask you, what is your view of the Black Lives Matter movement?

Specifically, what, what's, what do you think, what is it positively contributed and then what, what concerns you about it?

Yeah, so, Black Lives Matter has to be thought of in this way.

We have to separate the affirmation or the statement from the organization and its mission.

The statement, Black Lives Matter, organization and its mission.

The statement, Black Lives Matter, the affirmation, I think is right and wise and needs to be said.

Here's what the church has to understand, is that we've always been most effective

when we've been specific intentional

and particularized

again i refer to the pro-life movement in this area i am

passionately pro-life

uh... we have a great pregnancy resource center on the campus of our church

when partnership we care that i've

evangelize and witness and and sit outside of abortion clinics. I've been participating in a 40

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