Replay - Navigating Chaos - Leadership and Growth in Uncertain Times
Win Make Give with Ben Kinney
Ben Kinney Training
4.9 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 20 June 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Chad Hyams and Ben Kinney discuss navigating the chaos of 2020, focusing on survival, adaptation, and future growth. They delve into the challenges faced by leaders during this time, emphasizing the importance of taking action, working with factual data, and planning for both worst and best scenarios. The episode highlights the need for empathy, managing stress, and effectively utilizing priorities to thrive amidst uncertainty. Kinney prompts reflection on potential opportunities and long-term impacts, urging listeners to consider how they want to emerge from this period of upheaval.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Win Make Give podcast, a Ben Kinney training production, where we discuss the concepts of health, wealth, leadership, and legacy. |
| 0:14.9 | My name is Chad Heim's, and well, I'm not joined today by Bob Stewart as he's social distancing himself and keeping himself |
| 0:21.1 | secluded at home, although I do have with me Ben Kinney. Ben, say hello to everybody. |
| 0:26.3 | Hey, everybody. |
| 0:27.3 | All right, so Ben, we have decided to get together and still record in the conditions |
| 0:32.9 | that are going on out there right now. We are sitting more than six feet from each other, |
| 0:36.9 | so we're pretty good here, as is Dave, our audio guy. Yet Ben, we have a very different world going on |
| 0:43.2 | out there right now. So let me just ask you this. What would be the word you would use to describe |
| 0:47.7 | the current environment we are in right now? |
| 0:50.0 | You know, Chad, I've been asked to try to minimize swearing on this podcast, which is a new thing for me. |
| 0:56.5 | But this is freaking chaos. |
| 1:00.1 | This is a serious situation, Chad, and it's going to have massive impacts. |
| 1:08.2 | But here's what I bet. |
| 1:09.7 | I bet that we're going to come out stronger if we can |
| 1:14.5 | find a way to adapt and we can find a way to survive. In some of our years, it's about thriving |
| 1:21.8 | and growth, but some years are just about survival. This year, success is survival. Okay, so I know we usually |
| 1:32.4 | have an idea where we might want to go through the conversation, yet I'm going to go right off |
| 1:36.4 | script and throw a question right here at you, Ben. We had a big shift that happened back in 2006, |
| 1:41.4 | seven, eight, depending where you lived in the country. Tell me a little bit about, |
| 1:46.4 | do you think this is the exact same thing? Because we went into survival mode then as well, |
| 1:50.0 | or is this a completely different type of shift as we're experiencing this chaos right now? |
| 1:56.6 | You know, a lot of people, if they're in our demographic, have been through a couple |
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