three, two, one. Was good, everyone. I am Dr. Ney. I am joined by Dr. René. Brum-Bump-Bu-Bup-Bup-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-H. Christian Alfred, go ahead and give us some confetti, please. Please, please, please. Welcome, everyone. This is another episode of Docs outside the box where we are fusing money medicine and pop culture as well as no

i don't say as well as anymore i've stepped my game up rene don't try to trip me up new host new

laptop new microphone you know i'm not making those mistakes anymore but listen everyone, everyone, welcome back. Thank you very much for listening. Those who are listening to us through YouTube, those who, sorry, those who are watching us through YouTube. Thank you and shout out. We are slowly but surely building our subscribe account. So listen. Yeah, we got up to about 302. Yeah, we're doing good with that.

So everybody who continues to listen, I'm telling you, the video experience is quite different.

Yeah, Alfred does a great job.

Yeah, I'm missing out.

Yeah, missing out.

I mean, Christian does a great job on an audio experience, but also at the same time, so many people are used to listening to us on audio.

Hey, we also got a video experience, guys, so you might as well check it out.

Yeah. And once again, thank you for everyone, the day ones who've been listening to us on the podcast. We appreciate it when you're working out, when you're operating, when you're in clinic, when you're driving, wherever you are and you're listening to us. When you're pulling your hamstrings, like you said the last time. Hamstrings.

Yeah, we appreciate it. You're getting your hair twisted, braided.

You know what I'm saying? And all that stuff. You've sitting there. You got three people braiding your hair. Mm-hmm. We appreciate all of that. So, Dr. Renee, I'm in a hotel. You at kids are asleep we record in this late yeah life is a lot

different now than how life was five years ago even 10 years ago 10 years ago we just got married

or close to gotten married um and um you know we always tell people when we got married we found found out we had like almost $700,000 a student loan debt.

Yep.

And it was crazy.

We didn't know what to do.

We broke as a joke.

Yeah, we also had a lot of other debt that a lot of people don't know about.

So everybody, we not only just had $662,000 student loan debt, but Renee also was on the, was on the lamb. She was running from the IRS. The IRS is coming for you like you was Vince, was it, not Vince, what's his name? Something about Al Capone, right? Renée didn't want to pay her taxes, right? So imagine that. We're trying to get married. We're trying to get married. And it's time to, like, tell each other what's going on.

And Renee's like, I was trying to cash in.

I was like, yeah, I'm about to marry a trauma surgeon.

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