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I think of myself as an extremely optimistic person.

I don't think you can get up every day and do this work unless you believe deeply that

impossible things are completely possible and that you are the person who should try to make

them possible.

Jess Morales-Rocketto, a rebel-rousing digital strategists and community organizer,

helped Barack Obama get re-elected in 2012 and worked on Hillary Clinton's historic 2016 presidential campaign.

Now she's the political director at the National Domestic Workers

Alliance and co-chair of the Families Belong Together campaign to fight family

separation. Whether talking about the 2020 presidential field, the art of keeping

activism personal, or dealing with professional heartbreak, Jess holds no punches.

When I asked you how I should describe the work you do, you told me you like to think of yourself as a, quote, political lady about town.

I still have no idea what that means. I think I really reject being put in a box,

I think because I spent the first part of my career doing digital work. And the way that people

think about digital work, it's like you write the tweets, you like send the emails. And I always

thought of myself as just somebody who like motivated people, asked them to do things that, like, were for causes they cared about, made an impact.

And I just really rejected that label. Now that I've made the transition not into digital work and I sort of just do political things in the world, I really reject like a title.

Also I have like five titles because like why do one thing when you can have like, when you do like six things?

So I'm just sort of like a, you know, if there's politics, I'm there.

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