Hey, as we all sprint towards the end of the year, we're bringing back some episodes from the beginning of this year.

We'll be back in January with all new episodes, but for now, we're sending you our very best for a happy and healthy holiday.

Oh, I never had a conversation about me playing Latina characters because it wasn't something that was even

entertained. I did not look like anybody's Latina. Hello Latina to Latina listeners.

This is our 50th episode. Thank you for supporting and lifting us up as we make this podcast for you. To celebrate

this very special milestone, we spoke to a Latina who at 50 is fearless and standing

firmly in her brilliance. Gina Torres has been Hollywood royalty for decades, and we have watched

her play some iconic women on television.

But no role allowed Gina to embody her strength, her wisdom, and her power like Jessica

Pearson did on suits for more than five seasons.

For the first time, Gina shares why she left such a beloved show, and her reasons will

make you admire and respect her even more.

Lucky for us, she's returning to USA Network to star in a spin-off she helped create. Pearson, centered on

that complicated powerhouse character.

You're not just starring in Pearson.

You were a driving force behind this.

You brought the idea to the production company.

You're producing the show.

What did it feel like to go into a room and not just pitch yourself as the lead,

but pitch the idea for a show? Well, that's exactly what I did. I didn't pitch myself as the lead but pitch the idea for a show well that's exactly what I did I didn't

pitch myself as the lead I said I have an idea for the future of Jessica Pearson as a

character had nothing to do with me trying to get another job and everything to do with I want to tell this

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