Hey friends Kate here and and Dory here. Yeah we're both here. We're both here. We're here to let you know that this is our week off. Yeah we're on a break. We are. We're taking some time for self-care.

Well I'm taking some time with my family. So we're re-earing a couple of our favorite episodes this week on Monday you all heard our episode with Jenny Han and today we are re-earing Samantha.

Samantha and I'll start episode with Samantha Irving. Have you ever laughed as hard as we really talked to Samantha? We were sitting here in this very office with Samantha. So yeah so as I said you know a couple days ago even if you've listened to this episode before I would highly recommend giving it another go because it's just it's just so great and she's so great and we also talk about we have a lot of products in this episode also. There's a births bee.

There's a births bee slip on that has stayed with me from this episode and I do want to just make one quick announcement which is that tomorrow black Friday. We are launching our merch. It's here. We did it. We did it. We finally took two years. But it's here and you can find it on our website. There's a merch tab just head on over there and here's a little pro tip.

If you are a member of the Facebook group you will get a code for 20% off but you have to be a member of the Facebook group. The password is serums. So yeah that's it. Happy holidays. Happy holidays. Hope everyone is having a great Thanksgiving and we will talk to IRL ish next week. And we should say to our international listeners we hope you're just having a great week. Yeah great week everyone. Okay thanks. Bye.

Hello. Welcome to forever 35 a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I am Kate Spencer. I am Dory Shefrier. We are not experts. We are just two friends who like to talk about serums. And today we're actually going to talk about serums. I can't wait. We're bringing it back. I'm so excited. I am too. Oh gee forever 35.

We're six months old. Let's take it back to the old days. Forever 35 used to be so much cooler. I remember when forever 35 was cool. Talk about serums. We recently I was like wow we even talked about serums in a while. Yeah Dory was like we haven't should be chat about some products that we're liking. So we're going to do a product episode. But first let's just kind of circle it back and see how we're doing. How are you doing?

Well I'm coming off a weekend of seeing my number one favorite band fish. And I'm feeling very tired because I'm now old and I can't go to numerous fish concerts in a row like I used to.

Well getting home at 1 a.m. is like real. It is real. It was hard work. Yeah. You know in the grand scheme of things it was easy work. But it was a little bit like wow I'm not I'm not the Sprite Lee 19 year old I used to be.

I should explain to the audience that fish is my favorite band. I've seen about over 100 shows. And I've been seeing them since I was 16 years old since 1995. I saw my first fish show I normally see a few fish shows a year. There's something I posted about this on Instagram because I get teased a lot for loving fish so deeply it's not an a very understood thing.

And also I think to like still be a huge fan of the thing I was a huge fan of in high schools always not like sometimes people grow out of their things and I have just grown into it more.

But for me it's very it's like a very nurturing experience to get to go to these concerts. They're so energetic everybody's so happy to be there. It's very much like I get to kind of reconnect with who I was when I was like 16 17 18 19 20.

And also like now I'm a now I'm a totally different person and I feel very freeing. And so it's just really really fun aside from the fact that we were getting home at 1 a.m. And then of course my body wakes up at 7 a.m. So I was just like what am I right putting on like muscle muscle relaxing cream.

I was now like taking Advil preventively. It was great. It's that's that is like a big I think a big part of myself care is seeing like making time carving out time to like see this band that I love very deeply.

I really like that what you just said about kind of still liking something that you liked so long ago and seeing how your love for it has evolved.

Yeah because you've changed and your relationship to the band has changed and they've changed and they've changed but you've kind of changed in that you you've evolved together.

It's also kind of nice because it's a thing that's mine like it's not something I do with my husband you know and actually like can I have very different tastes when it comes to music.

And like it's a thing I get I go and do I don't bring my kids. Yeah. There are people who make that choice. It's just my thing. Yeah. And I like that. I love that.

So I had a really great time. Thank you to the band fish. I'm sure they're all listeners of this podcast for sure. And I just want to say thank you for being a part of my self care. Great shows here in LA.

That's all Dory. What did you do while I was at fish with your eyes.

I well Friday night I took myself to the movies. What did you see? I saw eighth grade. Oh my god. I want to see that so badly. I really liked it.

Damn, I got to get on that. But it is like painful to watch. I didn't so much identify exactly. I didn't like identify with the protagonist because I don't have the kind of social anxiety that she has.

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