REPLAY: Chuck Degroat on the Nine Faces of Narcissism {S05-021]

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🗓️ 23 December 2021

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

We’re taking a break to be with family over the holiday so we wanted to replay two topic-based episodes that have gone over extremely well with our listeners.

This week, take another listen to my killer conversation with psychologist, author, and spiritual director Chuck Degroat, about the nine faces of narcissism. We’re not talking about people with full-blown narcissistic personality disorder per se. We’re talking about narcissism on a continuum and what it looks like when each Enneagram type is manifesting a narcissistic style or type. Each of us is somewhere on that narcissistic spectrum.

In this episode you’ll learn:

What narcissism actually is
How narcissism shows up in all nine types, and
What the healing path is for all nines types to keep narcissism in check.

Chuck is the Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary Holland MI, and Co-Founder and a Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco. His latest book is, When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse. He is a licensed therapist, author, retreat leader, and spiritual director. Chuck has been married to Sara for 25 years and has two daughters.

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0:00.0	Well Merry Christmas, happy holidays and welcome to Typology!
0:06.6	The show on which we explore the story of you through the lens of the Anygram.
0:11.0	My name is Anthony Skinner, producer of the show and without any further ado, I would
0:16.0	like to introduce the host of our show Ian Cron, Ian Welcomant to the show.
0:21.7	Anthony, thank you very much, glad to be here.
0:24.1	Well, it's great to see you today, glad you're here.
0:26.7	Listen, we've got a very special show today.
0:29.7	Why don't you tell us a little bit about the show and about our special guest?
0:33.1	Yeah, so we're talking today with Dr. Chuck DeGroat.
0:37.3	Chuck is a psychologist, he teaches counseling and spiritual formation.
0:45.2	He is a guy who has written a terrific book that's titled, When Narcissism Comes to Churched,
0:54.6	Healing Your Community from Emotional and Spiritual Abuse.
0:59.5	And I'm excited about this conversation and you know that this is a little bit of a
1:04.3	thing with me.
1:05.9	I bristle sometimes when people say, oh so and so is such a narcissist, or I think he's
1:11.9	a narcissistic personality disorder, and they just throw the term narcissism around like
1:17.5	it's confetti without actually knowing what narcissism is.
1:22.8	They don't really have, at least from a clinical perspective.
1:26.4	Most people will use the word narcissism when what they really meant is that guy's a little
1:30.7	too self-interested or he's too into himself or she's, you know, too self-referencing all
1:36.5	the time blah, blah, blah, blah.
1:38.3	Well, narcissism is far more complicated than that.
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