Hi, everyone. This is Curtis, and I am excited to tell you about a new feature of the GoodFaith podcast and it's called Campfire Stories.

Now, in a great campfire, everyone has the opportunity to share their stories. And so, in Campfire Stories, we want to hear from you.

We want to hear a story about what you are doing along the themes of the GoodFaith podcast, perhaps it's something about how you're living out your relationships with political polarization, how you are trying to reflect the image of God in your institution and organization, or what you're doing with your money or your vocation, anything that has been sparked by the themes that we've covered here in the GoodFaith podcast is fear game.

It doesn't matter if it's a big story, a small story, or something in between, as long as it's a story about what you are doing in your life.

We're not so much interested in hearing just thoughts. We want to hear stories of doing. So, we'll put a link in the show notes where you can just click on it and then supply us the basic outlines of your story of doing of living out the themes of GoodFaith podcast.

And we'll look at it and we may invite you to share that story on a GoodFaith blog, a social media, or perhaps even invite you to come on the GoodFaith show yourself and talk to me and share your story.

Like, how cool would that be? I'd love to hear from you. I'd love to talk with you. So, please consider joining the campfire by actually joining actively and sharing your story with others gathered around the campfire. Thanks.

Welcome to the GoodFaith podcast. I'm David French with Curtis Chang and this podcast is going to be interesting. Curtis, we're going to talk about the Buffalo Massacre, the church's response to the Buffalo Massacre and we're going to talk about this thing called replacement theory.

And a lot of other things in addition to that. And so Curtis, I just want to go right to you to start. We've got a guest. I'm going to introduce the guest in just a second, but I just want to go right to you to start Curtis.

What, let's just begin with your initial response and, you know, why, why we brought on a guest to talk about it and then I'm going to dive into the guest. Yeah. So I like many people probably heard about.

The Boston Buffalo Massacre on my smartphone news feed. And I read about it for probably three minutes to just learn what happened. And then my, I have to confess my reaction was to swipe away.

I just, I learned enough to realize, oh, this is more of the same awfulness. And it was making me feel awful. And I didn't want to feel awful, David.

Yeah. And that awfulness was compounded by the fact that with this immense awfulness was the sense of utter powerlessness that I was utterly, there's nothing I could do about this. And so why should I just subject myself to more feelings of awfulness. And so that's why I swept away and I did so for a number of days.

But then the new story and cover just kept coming and I finally semi reluctantly started reading more about it. And as I did, I, I realized that this indeed was more of the same awfulness, but there were, there was an element of this story that I think sheds new light on the awfulness. It's not different.

It's the same, but, but it sheds new light. And it is what you just described that the shooter had revealed his mindset, his motivation, his worldview behind his actions in a, with a level of explicitness that I think is actually important for us to look at because I think it does shed new light on the same old awfulness.

And then I realized, wait a minute, I am not completely helpless because along with you, I happened to host a increasingly popular podcast that a lot of people listen to. That's why I'm not helpless here to do at least something about it. And by the way, David, the same time I pretty much the same day that I heard the news about the Buffalo massacre. I found out from the website called listen notes, which measures podcast popularity that our podcast, which only launched six months ago has achieved.

It's a top 0.5% in the of popularity that we're in the top 0.5% of global podcasts, not just the top 1% the top 5% it's really.

Well, we haven't really been sharing our videos, so I don't think I don't think it's that. I think it's your dulcet tones of your voice, David. But, but I felt really grateful. I mean, I think both you and I know we did not expect that.

That really feels like something entrusted to us by God. And so I did feel like, wait, we actually have a responsibility here to use this platform to try to shed light on this same old awfulness.

And then at the same time, I realized that you were going through an experience that I know we'll talk more about that actually connected you with somebody that I thought and we both thought would be a perfect guest to help us shed light on the same old awfulness.

And so I'll let you introduce that guest that you you've met.

Yeah, so I'm really excited. We've got Chuck Mingo with us Chuck is at Crossroads Church, which is Chuck, how big a church is Crossroads?

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