Repeat After Mimesis

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2024

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Luke Burgis, author and professor of business at the Ciocca Center for Principled Entrepreneurship, grants Jonah a well-deserved break from punditry with a crash course in mimetic theory. René Girard takes center stage as Luke and Jonah discuss the roots of human desire; how such desires lead to tribalism, conflict, and violence; and the relationship between mimetic processes and social discord. Scapegoats and gossip abound as Luke schools both high-minded Remnant listeners and theoretical normies on the psychology of nepotism, institutional debacles, and mob mentalities. Show Notes: —Luke’s website —Rob Henderson on luxury beliefs: Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family, and Social Class The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including Jonah’s G-File newsletter, weekly livestreams, and other members-only content—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey, I know you were expecting to hear my conversation or debate with Neil Ferguson about his argument that America is the Soviet Union today, but for reasons having entirely to do with the free press having some sort of internal problems.
0:15.2	I don't know if it was a reactor meltdown or if they needed time to figure out how to message Neil's defeat or my victory
0:26.5	in the first great dispatch free press wars.
0:30.1	It's all a mystery to me, but for whatever reason we they asked if we get
0:33.6	kick a kick the can down the road a little bit on releasing it I am nothing if not
0:38.3	magnanimous in victory so we said sure and I kid love Neil love the free press just but I did I was right and he was wrong so instead we're running a conversation I've been excited about for a while
0:50.5	Conversation I want to have for a while I'll explain it all in the intro that we've already recorded,
0:55.2	but it's with Luke Burgess and it's about Renee Gerard and Mimetic Desire. Boom!
1:01.2	Cancel your plans! You got something to listen to. Ladies and gentlemen, uh, can I please have your attention.
1:17.0	Ladies and gentlemen, uh, can I please have your attention?
1:21.0	And you dig it?
1:24.0	And you dig it!
1:27.0	Three news your listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host to the Remnant Podcast, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.
1:37.0	I've been wanting to do an episode on the topic we're going to get into in a second for a really long time I went on down a deep rabbit hole in all this stuff a while ago and yes I'm
1:48.6	being coy about what the topic is although you probably can tell from the title of the show.
1:53.0	And then I kind of forgot it because lots of things have been going on and I kind of put it on a back burner.
1:57.1	And then about a month ago, something like that, Someone tweeted one of my dog tweets and said,
2:07.0	look, I don't know the guy, but Jonah Goldberg's Twitter account
2:11.0	may be the least memetic account on Twitter.
2:15.2	And all he does is share his opinions and tweet pictures of his dogs.
2:20.0	And I took it as a compliment and I went and looked at the bio of the dude who did it.
2:24.3	It turns out he wrote a book called Wanting the Power of Mammetic Desire and I've
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