Hello and welcome to being well. I'm Forrest Hanson. If you're new to the show, thanks for joining us today. And if you've listened before, welcome back. I'm joined today by a very special guest back on the podcast for a third time, Dr. Lindsay Gibson. So, Lindsay, how are you doing today?

I'm doing great. It's so good to be here for us. I am so happy to have you back. The first two

conversations that we had were two of the honestly most popular we've ever had on the podcast,

particularly on YouTube, which speaks to how much people are into your work and how much value they get out of it.

So a little bit more about Dr. Gibson.

She is a clinical psychologist and the author of a number of books, including the classic adult

children of emotionally immature parents and her most recent book, which we're mostly focusing on

today, How to Raise an Emotionally Matured child.

So today we're going to be talking about emotional immaturity and it's flip side, emotional maturity, what it is, why some people develop it

and others don't, and what you can do to foster more of it, whether you're trying to do that

with a kid or if you're trying to help yourself develop a little bit more emotional maturity.

Because I really

thought, as I was reading through this book, that it was one of the best books I'd ever read on

reparenting. So not just parenting, but figuring out how to give yourself this stuff as an adult,

because so many people grow up without getting the things that you write about in the book. And

that just was really ringing through my head as I was going through. And I was wondering if that was part of what you were write about in the book. And that just was really ringing through my

hat as I was going through. And I was wondering if that was part of what you were thinking about

as you were writing the book. Well, yes, I think it was subliminally. Because one of the primary

motivators for doing this book was having spent over 30 years as a psychotherapist, listening to the stories of people who

had experienced so much emotional pain and emotional loneliness in their relationships with

emotionally immature parents. So, you know, how it is in psychotherapy, you end up talking a lot about childhood.

And so I was listening in on their memories of what it was like to be parented by a parent

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