Don't hold anything too tightly.

Just wish for it, want it, let it come from the intention of real truth for you, and then let it go.

For me, our soul is like it's unbound, it's limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves.

When people stop believing that somebody's got your back or Superman's coming, we turn to ourselves.

And that's where you become empowered.

Courageous participation attracts positive things.

I'm Gwyneth Paltrow, and this is the GOOP Podcast, where we bring together thought leaders, scientists, healers, creatives, and seekers.

I'm so grateful to be able to interview these bright minds and share their incredible wisdom with you.

And I especially love listening to the conversations that are led by my brilliant co-host and friend, Erica Chitty.

Erica is the CEO and co-founder of Loom, and she's been a part of the GOOP family since the beginning days.

We believe it's simply asking questions and listening has the power to change the way we see the world.

I'll let Erica fill you in on her guest today.

My guest today is Kelly McDaniel. Kelly is a licensed counselor, author, mother, and women's advocate.

Kelly's latest book is called Mother Hunger, how adult daughters can understand and heal from lost nurturance, protection, and guidance.

In it, she explores the complexity of mother-daughter relationships and seeks to normalize the experience of yearning from eternal love.

Today, we talk about how mother-hunger manifests and how this type of longing impacts our sense of self-beginning and infancy.

We talk about how mother-hunger presents itself in other types of relationships.

Kelly says that what we did to earn her mother's love is what we end up duplicating in friendships, romantic partnerships, and sometimes work.

And she shares a hopeful path forward for anyone who might recognize themselves in today's conversation.

Okay, let's get to my chat with Kelly McDaniel.

Kelly, it's so wonderful to have you today and to be getting into this topic of mother-hunger, which is something I've been thinking a lot about.

And I feel like over the past year and a half or so, I've been able to make a lot more space in my life to talk about it.

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