Rep. Pramila Jayapal on immigrants and America after 9/11

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🗓️ 9 September 2021

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Aarti Shahani, host of the WBEZ Chicago podcast Art of Power and author of the memoir Here We Are, talks with Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) about how 9/11 changed the relationship between immigrants and America. They discuss Jayapal's experience on 9/11 as a first-generation Indian migrant, as well as how her reaction to the attacks and their aftermath shaped her political trajectory and professional career as an activist — and, eventually, a member of Congress. Host: Aarti Shahani (@aarti411), Host, Art of Power Guest: Pramila Jayapal (@PramilaJayapal), U.S. Representative (D-WA) References: Use the Power You Have: A Brown Woman's Guide to Politics and Political Change by Pramila Jayapal (New Press; 2020) "Without A Country: Pramila Jayapal On The Problems Immigrants Face" by Madeline Ostrander (The Sun; Nov. 2008) Jama v. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, 543 US 335 (2005) Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: Amber Hall VP, Vox Audio: Liz Kelly Nelson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:57.5	I'm Arthi Shahani. I'm the creator and host of the podcast, Art of Power.
1:03.0	I'm a memoirist who's written a book about her family's immigrant journey called Here We Are.
1:09.0	This week, I'm your host for Vox Conversations.
1:12.1	My brother worked at the World Trade Center. He could have died on September 11, 2001.
1:26.8	He, we, survived the terrorist attacks. Still, every year on the anniversary of 9-11,
1:34.5	I wonder if the tragedy is ours to mourn, or if it belongs to white America.
1:42.2	A horrific event whose meaning is determined by skin color, not because Americans of different
1:49.0	races experienced that horror differently, but because in its immediate aftermath,
1:55.6	our government and newsrooms treated us so, so differently.
2:00.7	My father was among those immigrants following the 9-11 attacks to be targeted by the newly created
2:07.9	ICE, immigration, and customs enforcement for deportation. I spent nearly a decade of my life
2:14.9	running circles around that agency to keep my dad in this country.
2:20.1	I give this very personal preface to set up why today's guest fascinates me.
2:26.9	Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal embodies a post 9-11 journey that many of us
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