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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Rep. Katie Porter on how capitalism is failing

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2018

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Katie Porter is the Rep.-elect from California’s 45th District, which happens to be the district I grew up in. She’s part of the brigade of Democrats who turned Orange County blue for the first time since the Great Depression. But that’s not why I asked her on the show. I asked her on the show because she’s one of the most interesting members of the incoming House majority. Porter grew up on an Iowa farm, watching the debt crises of the ’80s devastate her family and her region. At Harvard Law, she took the class of a particularly charismatic professor whom you might have heard of: Elizabeth Warren. That class changed Porter’s life. Porter’s academic work explores how rarely markets work the way they’re supposed to, and how often banks and other lenders play by different rules than the law says they need to. In 2012, then-state Attorney General Kamala Harris appointed Porter to be California’s independent monitor of banks, where she saw the lengths they went to to avoid abiding by the settlements they’d signed. In this conversation, Porter and I talk about how all this informed her path to Congress, why she thinks Americans are losing faith in capitalism, whether the Obama administration failed homeowners in the aftermath of the subprime mortgage collapse, and why lenders are always making you fax them documents (the answer is, honestly, infuriating). I know, I know, interviews with politicians are often a bit bland. Trust me. This isn’t one of those. Recommended books: Evicted by Matthew Desmond Denial by Jessica Stern Lonesome Dove Larry McMurtry Notes from our sponsors:LEGO: In today's show you heard advertising content from The LEGO Store. With LEGO, every gift has a story. Start your story today at https://LEGO.build/EKS-Pop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

When some of our largest banks were failing and in crisis,

0:04.3

our government was able to be creative and respond

0:08.2

when it came time for a family that was in an emergency

0:11.8

that didn't have anywhere to go.

0:13.8

The government took years and years.

0:16.4

MUSIC

0:28.4

Hello, welcome to the Client Show on the Box Media Podcast Network.

0:31.4

You may have heard that Democrats won a one-the-house in the 2018 election.

0:36.4

Big news, if you haven't heard it, it's big change in American politics.

0:39.8

A lot of things are going to be different.

0:41.4

Something I wanted to do on the show is talk to some of those Democrats who won.

0:45.0

Try to get a sense of every new class of part of the intermajority,

0:49.0

every new class of incoming members of Congress, they changed the party.

0:52.4

They changed what it stands for.

0:53.6

They changed the way it does politics.

0:55.4

They've been out there more recently talking to the public,

0:58.0

like writing a new wave.

0:59.8

Parties are transformed by successive generations of their congressional leadership.

1:04.6

And so I wanted to talk to a couple of the really interesting folks who won

1:08.0

among the Democrats in 2018.

1:10.2

And the person I wanted to start with was Congresswoman-elect Katie Porter.

1:13.4

I wanted to start with Porter for one thing because she won my home district.

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