Hi, I'm Molly Jong Fast and this is Fast Politics, where we discuss the top political headlines with some of today's best minds.

We're on vacation, but that doesn't mean we don't have a great show for you.

Congressman Brendan Boyle joins us to talk about the incoming dysfunction in the next Congress, the 119th Congress. But first, we'll talk to historian

and Democracy Americana newsletter author Thomas Zimmer about how we prepare for Project

2025 assault on the America we know. Welcome back to fast politics, Thomas. Well, thank you for having me on. The last time we

talked, we talked about Project 2025. You're an academic. You have been writing about this endlessly,

so smartly. I am a fan and also have tried really hard to put the focus on some of the stuff you're doing because it's so important.

And so I want you to talk to us about what you're doing with this and where you are in the

trajectory of your life and also of this project 2025 coming into fruition.

Yeah, I mean, I'm by profession. I'm a historian. I'm at Georgetown University. And I work on

the relationship between mainstream conservatism and the radical right. And since sort of the

1930s or so, and I guess, you know, over the past almost 10 years now, there's no way,

if you're working on this as a historian,

there's just no way that you're not talking about Trump and Trumpism and how do you get to that

point. And so for me, over the past few years, I've tried to sort of grapple with, you know,

these more radical forces within the broader sort of right-wing coalition within the Republican

party and why they have come to dominate the Republican Party and the American right?

They are so clearly in charge over there, right?

They have always been there.

This is not entirely new, but these more radical, really extreme factions and ideas, they have

moved so clearly to the power centers of conservatism.

They have taken over the Republican Party,

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