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Wonder Cabinet

Renee Bergland: The Enchanted Science of Emily Dickinson and Charles Darwin

Wonder Cabinet

Wonder Cabinet Productions

Society & Culture, Wonder, Philosophy, Ttbook, Knowledge, Interview

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Emily Dickinson and Charles Darwin both saw nature as alive with mystery – and treated wonder as a way of knowing. Literary scholar and science historian Renee Bergland, author of "Natural Magic," is our guide to the forgotten kinship between the reclusive poet and the celebrated naturalist. 

Dickinson and Darwin never met, but they had at least one close friend in common. Both were both fascinated by fossils. Both wandered the woods and swamps near their homes, studying insects and documenting rare plants. They shared a vision of the interconnectedness of all life. We know that Dickinson, with her background in botany, geology, astronomy and chemistry, was enthralled by Darwin’s evolutionary theory. And it certainly seems possible that Darwin, with his degree in theology and his lifelong love of poetry and literature, might have admired the American poet whose close observations and delicate perceptions echoed his own. 

Bergland’s dual biography, just out in paper, is vivid, sparkling intellectual history – a window onto a time when scientific thinking still embraced emotion and wonder as modes of perception. Could the belief in “natural magic” that infused Dickinson’s and Darwin’s ideas restore our own faith in a universe alive with meaning? Our conversation about the poet who studied natural history and the naturalist who loved poetry suggests a way forward – by reclaiming their shared ecological wonder. 

0:00 — Meeting Renee Bergland

9:00 — What Is Natural Magic?

20:00 — Beauty, Truth, and Evolution

34:00 — Hope and the Garden of Change

Wonder Cabinet is hosted by Anne Strainchamps and Steve Paulson. Find out more about the show at https://wondercabinetproductions.com, where you can subscribe to the podcast and our newsletter.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Wonder Cabinet. I'm Anne Strange Hamps. And I'm Steve Paulson. If there's one American poet

0:08.4

whose work is synonymous with wonder, it's Emily Dickinson. The legendary 19th century spinster

0:15.0

poet of New England. An intensely private recluse who famously only wore white.

0:20.9

Even if you've never read an Emily Dickinson poem, you probably know some of her lines.

0:26.1

I dwell in possibility. Tell all the truth, but tell it slant.

0:31.3

Hope is the thing with feathers. But here's what you might not know about Emily Dickinson.

0:37.2

She had a great mind, not not just for poetry but for science.

0:40.8

Because in her day, art and science weren't as separate as they are now.

0:45.3

In fact, they had something in common.

0:47.6

An enchanted view of nature.

0:50.4

Which is precisely what many of us are looking for today.

0:53.8

She has one and this means wild thing.

0:56.2

She's very wild.

0:57.7

Hey, Bob's there to Anne.

0:59.6

Hi, prettys.

1:01.1

Hi, guys.

1:03.0

This is Renee Bergland and her two dogs at home in Hanover, New Hampshire.

1:08.8

You are a girl here.

1:10.0

I'm doing my best. I don't know.

1:12.6

Should I walk around this way?

1:13.6

No, no. Let's go out three-stop door, but I want...

1:16.6

Renee is an Emily Dickinson scholar and author of a book that has been really important to me.

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