This is an I-Heart podcast.

What I told people, I was making a podcast about Benghazi.

Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why?

Benghazi, the truth became a web of lies.

From prologue projects and Pushkin Industries, this is Fiasco, Benghazi.

What difference at this point does it make?

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Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of IHeart Radio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Manky.

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Hi, this is Dana Schwartz.

I am so excited to be here today for a very special episode of Noble Blood.

I'm joined by the incredible actor, director, historian, writer, Peter Weller. Just an

incredible figure, an incredible life you've done so much. We're going to be talking about

the Holy Roman Emperor Frederick the Second. But before we dive in, I would just love to ask,

and I think my listeners would love to know, what was your transition like going from the acting world

in Hollywood to going back and studying Italian Renaissance art?

So I knew nothing about art.

My mother tried to introduce me to art.

I didn't really get it.

There's a wonderful actress.

Most people know it was an actress model.

She's actually an art history design degree from Wellesley,

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