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In Our Time

Renaissance Magic

In Our Time

BBC

History

4.69.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2004

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss Renaissance obsession with Magic. In 1461 one of the powerful Medici family’s many agents carried a mysterious manuscript into his master’s house in Florence. It purported to be the work of an ancient Egyptian priest-king and magician called Hermes Trismegistus. When Cosimo de Medici saw the new discovery, he ordered his translations of Plato to be stopped so that work could begin on the new discovery at once. Hermes promised secret knowledge to his initiates and claimed to have spoken with the spirits and turned base metal into gold. His ideas propelled natural magic into the mainstream of Renaissance intellectual thought, as scholars and magi vied to understand the ancient secrets that would bring statues to life and call the angels down from heaven.But why did magic appeal so strongly to the Renaissance mind? And how did the scholarly Magus, who became a feature of the period, manage to escape prosecution and relate his work to science and the Church?With Peter Forshaw, Lecturer in Renaissance Philosophies at Birkbeck, University of London; Valery Rees, Renaissance historian and a translator of Ficino’s letters; Jonathan Sawday, Professor of English Studies at the University of Strathclyde.

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0:12.0

Hello in 1461 one of the powerful Medici families many agents carried a mysterious

0:17.8

manuscript into his master's house in Florence

0:20.0

It purported to be the work of an ancient Egyptian priest king and magician called Hermes Trismagistus

0:26.7

When Cosmo de Medici saw the new discovery he ordered his translations of Plato by Vichino to be stopped

0:32.6

So that work could begin on the new discovery at once

0:36.2

Hermes promised secret knowledge to his initiates and claimed have spoken with the spirits and turned base metal into gold

0:42.4

His ideas propelled natural magic into the mainstream of Renaissance intellectual thought as scholars and magi

0:48.8

Vide to understand the ancient secrets that would bring statues to life and call the angels down from heaven

0:54.8

But why did magic appeal so strongly to the Renaissance mind and how did the scholarly magus who became a feature of the period

1:01.7

managed to escape prosecution and relate his work to science and the church

1:06.3

With me to discuss Renaissance magic is Peter Forshaw lecture in Renaissance philosophies at Birkbeck University of London

1:12.8

Vile Rérys Renaissance Historian and a translator of Vichina's letters and Jonathan Sorday professor of English Studies at the University of Strathclyde

1:21.6

Let's begin with this extraordinary figure Hermes Trismagistus be to Forshaw. Who did the Renaissance scholars think he was and when did they think he was writing?

1:30.8

Okay, there are various

1:32.8

Ideas that we find in Renaissance texts about who he was and some people for example suggest he was the son of Prometheus

1:39.7

Others that he was a grandson of Abraham

1:43.1

Essentially he was a legendary figure

1:45.8

Who became the representative of

1:49.2

Egyptian mysteries and Egyptian truths

1:52.9

You mentioned Marcilio Fichino who was the first person to really translate that the main hermetic corpus of texts and

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