Brian Laird on W.N.C in Atlanta, political dignitaries from both parties will be paying tribute

to former First Lady Rosalin Carter before she is laid to rest tomorrow. Her husband

Jimmy Carter, aged 99 and in hospice care, is making the

trip from their home in Plains, Georgia, more than 100 miles away. Also current First

Lady Jill Biden and all the living past First Ladies, even Malani

Trump reportedly are gathering. So we'll get a few thoughts now from Jonathan

Alter who has written books on presidents, including Obama and FDR, and his

biography of Jimmy Carter, which came out two years ago, called his very best Jimmy Carter

life.

Jonathan Alter is also an MS NBC political. best Jimmy Carter, A Life.

Jonathan Alter is also an MS NBC political analyst

and author of a sub-stack newsletter called Old Goats.

And he has a New York Times op-ed

called the formidable Rosalin Carter.

Jonathan, always good to have you on the show.

Welcome back to WNYC.

Thanks, Brian.

You wrote that perhaps in death, Mrs. Carter

will finally be properly appreciated for her role as this country's

premier champion of mental health.

What did she do in that area?

Well, starting when she was first lady of Georgia, she tried to end the stigma that

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