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Welcome.

It is Vernic with Senator Ted Cruz.

Ben Ferguson with you.

It's nice to have you with us wherever you are around the country.

And this is one of those just somber shows.

Senator, you and I actually have not gotten to talk since the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk.

A dear friend of both of ours,

you've known him for over a decade like I have. You've broken bread with Charlie. We have actually done verdict live at turning point events down in Florida. You've spoken at other turning point

events as I have as well. I saw him not too long ago, and we just talked about our kids.

And I think about his kids and I think about his wife and this tragedy.

And it makes me so sad that this is where we are in this country, that there are people that

believe that this is the way to do things. And I want to get

your reaction to that as well. Look, this, I'm heartbroken. Charlie was a good friend. As you noted,

I've known Charlie for over a decade. i met him when he was 18 years old

he was he was a young kid he was coming out of chicago uh he was just starting turning point

he had this vision he had this vision for energizing young people and and he was as an 18 year old

charlie was impressive you could see how smart he was You could see how smart he was. You could see how

driven he was. You could see the clarity of vision that he had. He knew exactly what he wanted to

do to energize young people. And it was something that when he first started talking about it a lot of

people disbelieved him I got to say this week this week was a really hard week it was

number one it was the anniversary of 9-11 yeah and and that that is a national tragedy

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