Before you listen to this BBC podcast I'd like to tell you about something else you might enjoy.

My name is Allison Hindle and I commission audio drama and fiction for the BBC.

It's a great privilege because I get to unearth stories people love.

You should see the books and scripts covering my floor,

from new talent and established writers as well as classics.

The BBC has such a rich history of making great audio drama,

we're still the largest producer in the world,

and the popularity of podcasts means we can share what we do with even more people.

So if you like to lose yourself in a gripping audio drama or book, find your next listen on BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds.

Music Radio Podcasts.

You're listening to the TMS Podcast from BBC Radio 5 Live.

Now before play today we had a minute's applause in memory of the former England player Graham Thorpe, whose death

has announced a couple of weeks ago he was only 55 and both sides are also wearing

black armbands to pay tribute. Thorpe paid a hundred test matches at 82 one-day

internationals for England as well as enjoying a long and successful county

career with Surrey. After retiring in 2005 he did do some media work including a few games as us on the BBC

but it was coaching which had become his second career eventually working with England where he played a part in the

2019 World Cup winning campaign before assisting Chris Silverwood

including stepping in for him in Sydney on the ashes tour of 2021-22 is the only

test that England didn't lose in that series. But for a generation of

cricket fans thought provided hope in a largely unsuccessful England side. He

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